Four choices for you

Meet Bryony from Zimbabwe, Chola and Susan from Zambia, Ivana from Serbia, Carolien from The Netherlands and Nthabeleng from South Africa. They are six delegates at the Civicus Youth Assembly which will be our venue on Wednesday. They’re going to be hosting the show with me, but first things first we need to choose a subject. See the four issues that they have chosen below. Please leave your comments on the questions and if they should make the show. We’ll be deciding at 0830GMT on Wednesday morning. In the mean time Laura in the States is your Night Editor.

13 Responses to “Four choices for you”

  1. 1 Shirley
    June 17, 2008 at 19:48

    I feel like such a dope. I posted at TP 16 June and asked where TP 17 June was. :=s

    I’m very curious to see how the discussions on gender equality vs gender differences develops, as well as the discussion about the youth vote.

    Next time I hop online, I hope to read up on the explosion in Baghadad. I heard about it, but only in passing. Any updates from Lubna on things like electricity, fuel, water, trash disposal, and occupation military activities will certainly be appreciated. Also waiting for word from Zaynab.

  2. 2 Zak
    June 17, 2008 at 20:08

    One of the best experiences in my youth life was being part of NYLC, National Young Leaders Conference in DC. That said the best thing about it was being able to mock real decisions in government. Giving the ability to consider acting within government on various topics around the world is the best way to get youth involved. It seems a good topic would be how their respective governments work in their countries: Democracy would be a uniting theme.

    Sorry it wasn’t clear the 4 choices were the topics on the main page: Ok let me expand my statement to say that privatizing healthcare is probably one of the most debatable points of a Democracy so that would get my vote.

  3. June 17, 2008 at 20:32

    Salaam my most beloved Shirley… Thanks a million sweetie… Yeah, you may want to check out this link : news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7459842.stm. 51 people murdered and 75 others wounded in a bombed car explosion in a bus station this evening in Baghdad… With my love… Yours forever, Lubna…

  4. 4 Amy
    June 17, 2008 at 21:26


    I am so happy that you are safe. Just like Shirley, my first thought was of you and Zainab. Please be safe and know you both are in the loving arms of all your WHYS family!


  5. 5 Zainab
    June 17, 2008 at 21:43

    salam alycom
    Dear Shirley and Amy , thank you so much for this love i’m really happy to hear that you care about us in Iraq. thank you. Al Hamdu li Allah (=thank God) we are safe.
    I think today you both did not participate in on-air show! or i don’t know maybe i missed your comments.

    Dear Shirley, there is no new in electricity, fuel, water, trash disposal, …etc. it is just the same. well maybe the same is better than getting back more steps. So let’s keep it as it is.

    yours truly, Zainab from Iraq

  6. 6 Zak
    June 17, 2008 at 21:47

    Lori Drew goes on trial today in a case that definitely impacts youth; the case of Megan Meier who hung herself after being led into a virtual relationship and then deplored by her false suitor, Drew a neighbor, who was trying to eliminate competition for her own daughter. She’s being tried based on some extenuating laws outside the state of Missouri where the crime took place; in LA CA on Federal charges.

    Also to any mods out there: I’m not sure Laura is with us but I did email her and posts are stacking up like crazy so if you can: help!

  7. 7 Dennis
    June 18, 2008 at 00:00

    Hi….Bryony, Chola, Susan, Ivana, Carolien & Nthabeleng….

    I don’t know which story…i like them all….

    Onondaga Community College
    Syracuse, New York
    United States of America

  8. 8 Shirley
    June 18, 2008 at 01:00

    Alhamdulillah, you two are safe. I felt that Bush’s impact on the world is a moot point; most admit that he ahs had a devastating impact on the world. So I concentrated on a project of mine instead.

  9. 9 Shirley
    June 18, 2008 at 03:08

    Something that has been on my mind lately is the seeming intellectual hypocrisy of the pro-life movement in the U.S. I say it this way because the same people who advocate legislation banning abortion typically also support de-regulation of the arms industry, cessation of government funding for public programmes and environmental initiatives, corporate power over labour unions, funding for the military and its wars, etc. I see that as a culture of death, not life.

    I first heard mention of a culture of life from Pope John Paul II, whom I respect for his political stances on many issues.

    I said on another thread, I think that the refusal of our politicians to establish a living wage with which one worker in the family could provde for all of the needs of the family is another methods of ripping families apart and forming dysfunctional societies. People can claim to be pro-life all that they want, but as long as they would rather spend money on bombs than on health care, education, food, housing, and living wages, then they are promoting a culture of death… I think that it applies generally as well as to the situation in question on the other thread.

  10. 10 steve
    June 18, 2008 at 03:13

    @ Shirley

    A pro choice muslim? I don’t have to be religious to make the argument that others shoudln’t suffer for the bad decisions of the parents.

  11. 11 Shirley
    June 18, 2008 at 10:49

    I was making a point about the hypocrisy among certain elements of the right-wing conservatives, not making a statement about my own political stance. Sorry. The whole business of religiously right-wing pro-lifers supporting governmental policies that constitue a culture of death has been on my mind lately. In the case of some of them, it’s because they are single-issue voters (even if they do not admit as much); and in the case of others, it’s because they have bought into William Buckley Jr’s brand of political-religious conservatism. Either way around, it is only hypocrisy. Why such people think that they can call themselves pro-life when their votes enable politicians who are furthering our culture of death is beyond me.

  12. 12 Jonathan (sunny San Francisco)
    June 18, 2008 at 11:24


    I restrained myself on the other thread, but seeing the “living wage” stuff again, I’m going to pipe up. Politicians don’t pay or set wages, and shouldn’t. But let’s say they did: How would they figure out how much money it would take for one person to support a family? How many kids do they have? What city and neighborhood do they live in? Should they get more money for having more children, and for living in a more expensive area? If they have two or three cars? If politicians set this wage, who pays it? Employers? So wages would not be determined by an employer according to the job, but by a politician according to stuff that’s got nothing to do with the job? It would cost a whole lot more to employ a parent supporting a family than a single person, for the same job. Who do you suppose the employer is likely to hire, in that case?

    The closer one looks at this idea, the more cracks one can see in it. Unless I misunderstand the word “wage” and you really mean “welfare payment?”

    My own preference would be for a lighter touch from government all around. I’d like it not to kill people, whether in wars or in prisons, and not to meddle around in business to do favors for the favored, not to tell us who or how to love, or that we must become parents long before we’re ready to, which does no favor for either reluctant mothers or unwanted children. Someday they might even reconsider their decision to place the drug industry entirely in the hands of violent criminals; the only beneficiaries are the criminals. But I digress.

  13. 13 Anita Henderson
    June 18, 2008 at 22:33

    lubna, i am so glad you are alive! i am so sorry to hear of the killings and woundings in baghdad! i am thinking of you all the time! love anita

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