On air: Is fast food unfairly demonised?

If you’re trying to shed a few pounds, eating fast food probably wouldn’t be your first thought. However Weight Watchers has joined forces with McDonalds in New Zealand.

Both companies say it helps people making a lifestyle change to still enjoy treats in moderation and by giving fast food meals “points” it makes it easier for dieters.  Not so, say numerous critics who have accused weight watchers of selling out.

But is junk food always bad? For more than a decade fast food has been demonised in the west, but was that perhaps unfair? Do you see junk food as a treat, a slice of western luxury?

If you’re so inclined, here is a guide to how to eat fast food when following a low carb diet

Is this a liberating kick against people constantly telling us what we can and can’t eat? Or do we have to accept that healthy living and junk food don’t go together?

117 Responses to “On air: Is fast food unfairly demonised?”

  1. 1 Roy, Washington DC
    March 5, 2010 at 15:31

    A point system to justify eating fast food? Who are they kidding?

    The demonization isn’t unfair at all. Keeping weight off involves two things — eating less, and exercising more. Fast food throws a wrench into the first part of this. This is especially true of greasy fast food (i.e. most fast food); junk food is called junk food for a reason.

  2. 2 Ibrahim in UK
    March 5, 2010 at 15:32

    Weight isn’t the point. You can still eat unhealthy food and lose or gain weight. The point is to have a good diet that gives you the nutrition you need in the amount you need. Fast food gives you excesses of some things, and not enough of others; an unhealthy diet.
    Alas, unhealthy food tastes great. We over-indulge in this luxury at our own demise. There is nothing glamourous or luxurious about the consequences of a poor diet.

  3. March 5, 2010 at 15:34

    Junk food is popular because it saves time for those who are too busy to cook their own food as it is an easy way out for those who are too lazy to boil even an egg.

    However there is nothing wrong in taking fast food with moderation and as long as there are rigorous checks on its healthy aspect, concerning hygiene and the ingredients out of which it is made.

    As one can’t escape the demands of modern life which necessitate long working hours and shortage of time , fast food remains a solution because of its price and the easiness to eat it on the spot or as a takeaway.

    In short, what is needed is moderation, the danger is when fast food becomes staple food replacing fresh one that should ideally be cooked in one’s kitchen and not delivered wrapped in papers and boxes.

  4. 4 T
    March 5, 2010 at 15:35

    No. All you have to do is look at the content. Fat, sugar. Also, one average fast food meal in the States has more than the daily salt intake suggested by the Dept. of Health.

    If fast food is so good for you, then why do so many of my friends abroad keep talking about those fat Americans (not me, of course :))?.

  5. 5 T
    March 5, 2010 at 15:48

    The biggest drink size at McDonalds here in the States is about 72 oz. That’s equal to about 3 pints.
    Most of their drinks have lots of sugar in them.
    One 12 oz. can of soda has roughly 30 grams of sugar in it.
    Most health experts here suggest no more than 50 grams of sugar a day in your diet.
    But a 72 oz. drink equals 180 grams. Almost 4 times the daily limit.

    Pleae tell me how Weight Watchers marketing dept. will spin this to make it “acceptable”?

    • 6 John Doe (a deer)
      March 5, 2010 at 17:49

      Exactly. I can’t say I’ve ever seen someone go to McDonald’s and NOT get a drink. It comes with a combo meal, which costs less per item, and cost is the main reason fast food is so popular in some places. The foods denoted with the logo might not be so bad, but no one’s going to go out to the store and get some spinach to complete his or her meal, so fries and a soda are a likely option.

      Actually, I’ve heard only 10 percent of sugar should be from added sugars (i.e., 25 of 250 grams should be added), and I’m more inclined to follow this guideline for the simple reason that it’s much less.

    • 7 Gillian of New Zealand
      March 5, 2010 at 19:34

      It probably helps T to realise that McDonalds doesn’t have to do the same in NZ as it does in the US. Here they offer small, medium and large size drinks and they’ve also offered fruit juice and water for quite some time.

      Many of our McDonald’s restaurants also incorporate what is called “McCafe”, which serves cafe style coffee, tea, hot chocolate. So they are plenty of options for people who don’t want to drink large Cokes.

      You can look at the nutritional information for all of their menu items on their website: http://mcdonalds.co.nz/#/home.

  6. March 5, 2010 at 15:56

    Looking at fast food ewbsites there are no mission statements that say ‘we are committed to providing healthy foods’. We have nothing to hold them accountable to and thus it is our responsibility to eat what is good for us, and maybe one burger in a whie is good for us, there is no real reason to make it a lifestyle habit.

  7. 9 Bob in Qld
    March 5, 2010 at 16:01

    Unfairly demonised? No. Demonised for the wrong things? Probably yes. I’m not so worried about the high fat content–people should take personal responsibility. What I dislike is that idea that food must be fast in the first place. I can whip up a meal in my own kitchen probably faster than I can go to the nearest takeaway–yet we now have a generation of people convinced they don’t have time to cook…or to “stop and smell the roses”. Tis sad.

  8. 10 Emran
    March 5, 2010 at 16:23

    I’m writing to you from a franchise of Coffee World (part of Global Franchise Architects) here in a supposedly trendy part of Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh where you can see how the whole experiment of globalisation has gone pretty…well wrong.

    Not only is the divide between the rich and poor very apparent as soon as you leave your home but the situation is further exacerbated by the existence of global branded restaurants such as Pizza Hut, KFC and Nando’s.

    Here you have about 97% of the population living pretty close to either side of the poverty line being introduced to fastfood culture from North America and cafe culture from Europe when they can but only look on longingly from through the window from the streets of the culinary delights being indulged by the few moneyed class inside an air-conditioned eatery.

    Perhaps as a British Bangladeshi who’s admittedly jaded by the paradigm of globalisation which seems to only fill the pockets of those in the developed world, I am seeing the introduction of fastfood culture here as not only cultural colonialism – which this country seems to accept blindly and wholesale which is another topic altogether – but the homogenisation of the West’s other export: Excess and gluttony.

    By introducing big fastfood brands to a developing country like Bangladesh – which is rife with corruption – without thinking about its socio-demographics you’re essentially artificially forcing an empty façade of ‘development’ and ‘progress’ onto its people.

  9. 11 steve
    March 5, 2010 at 16:29

    Ah, I remember when I was 15 years old and worked at a fast food place, people would order the fat ladened burgers, with mayo, cheese, large french fries and they they would order the diet coke because they were on a “diet”. Always made me chuckle..

  10. March 5, 2010 at 16:31

    All I have to say on this topic is:-All things in moderation.

  11. March 5, 2010 at 16:34

    All I have to say on this topic is;-All things in moderation.

  12. March 5, 2010 at 16:38

    It is, fast food is not the problem we are! it all comes down to a matter of choice you choose to eat it or not, you choose to gouge yourself to death or not. some of the things that we cook at home are more poisonous than the MCd’s the burger king and the Wendys , we’ve certainly reached where we are going, lol we have now criminalized food. Hello everything in moderation, some people bad mouth food because they have no self control.

  13. March 5, 2010 at 16:48

    What’s wrong with Steak & Kidney Pie, Cornish Pasty or Pot Roast?
    Fats and spices ruin your health and plug up the arteries. Get closer to fresh vegetables, salads and farm products. It’s fun, it’s healthy, it keeps you fit.

  14. 16 Cabe UK
    March 5, 2010 at 16:48

    Junk food has too many calories, fat, carbs, sugar, is too fried and all goodness killed off with overcooking and reheating to be of any value to your body apart from a quick energy fix? But, if Weightwatchers gave points of say- 4000 points to a Big Mac, and that was your quota for the day… then It could work ! 🙂 🙂
    Paul MacKenna has made a huge industry in hypnotherapy and mind programming to help people control their eating which works ( eat smaller portions / stop eating when you are full etc etc ) – all these things we all know already but ‘forget’ !
    – I think the majority of overweight people lack real willpower and want something easier and to be literally told what to do with their diets. That’s probably why they don’t work in the long run as the weight usually comes back. Losing weight is not just about diet. It usually needs a whole reshuffle of your attitude and lifestyle, better food eaten only when hungry, sleep, and for you to fool your brain into not going into survival mode when its food supply is suddenly rationed etc … Ah!….. and, forgot to mention….. Exercise !

  15. 17 steve
    March 5, 2010 at 16:54

    They have fastfood everywhere. It’s all over europe, and never have I seen more fastfood than I have seen in Australia.

  16. 18 Richard B.
    March 5, 2010 at 16:58

    Compared to what my roommates cook, yes.

  17. 19 Clamdip
    March 5, 2010 at 17:12

    I think people really don’t know what they’re eating. There have been numerous
    salmonella scares in American food including BSE and other contaminants people don’t know about. When I had a more hectic lifestyle I ate out a lot. Now that I hardly ever eat out I never sick. I also don’t eat meat very much. I prefer my own food and if I don’t know how to make something I can always try to learn at home. It’s fun to cook and it really doesn’t take that much time to prepare your meals at home.

  18. 20 T
    March 5, 2010 at 17:12

    I just figured out part of the marketing plan here.

    How much do you wanna bet that this campaign is tied into Kevin Rudd’s campaign to overhaul Australian health care? Australia and New Zealand have close ties in many areas. Lots of Kiwis go over to Australia to live and work.

    Another reason. There’s a growing amount of evidence that more Australians are starting to become obese. Maybe not to the extent as in the States. But all that beer will catch up with you eventually :).

  19. 21 Denise in Chicago
    March 5, 2010 at 17:15

    I do think fast foods are unfairly demonised. The occasional fast food meal isn’t the problem – it is the consumer who chooses to over-indulge in high fat, low nutrition foods. Each of us must take responsiblity for our choices and the resulting outcomes.

  20. 22 jens
    March 5, 2010 at 17:16

    i am a member of slowfood. this organization was started in italy to appreciate food. selecting and cooking food is one of my hobbies. i enjoy finding new ingreadients and then figure out what to do with them. each time i go into an asian/world food store i buy something i have never used before. my last buy is boild silk worms, certainly ot a stable of McD……

    there is nothing wrong with the ocassional burger, but when 10 burgers a day become your staple diet then…….maybe re-think your approach

  21. 23 Andrew in Australia
    March 5, 2010 at 17:19


    I think either Australia has only just overtaken the US as the fattest bunch of blubberbutts per head of population or is a very very very close second. And judging by what I see and the attitude of many here many worship at the altar of fast food and other processed ‘goodies’.

    • 24 Adam
      March 6, 2010 at 09:38

      i live in kuwait! and trust me , you’d be surprised at the mcdnld branches found, all across such a small country!in between every branch and the other, there’s one found! but ofcourse, there’s a political reality to this fact, which was non existent before the gulf war in 1990.

      but obesity and suffering from fast food chains are global pandemics! thanks to globalization, you cannot possibly avoid this reality! but what’s happning with me personally, is that i literally grew sick,merely from looking at banners of fast food restuarants, let alone there food! because my office is in a food court, in of the malls here in kuwait, i get to see what people gorge on, on a daily basis! i even fell victim to this poor diet at one point, when all i did for lunch was eating fast food, for a whole week, and i could literally feel my insides rotten, to an extent where when i let gas out of my mouth, i wouldn’t know if it came out of my mouth or else where. ( my apologies for grossing you out,but it’s a reality)

      people burp, that’s understandable, just do not kill others while you’re at it! and for those who have “no time”, you can still tackle this issue,without compromising your health! you can atleast make those ready-to-make meals at home, if you just do a little bit of research, and invest a little more time into perfecting those meals! im no chef by any means (though i aspire to be) , but i had seen many before ,explaining how you can prepare those half-cooked meals, throw them in the fridge, only to be warmed for quite a few minutes afterwards! probably half the nutritional value, but atleast you know who prepared them, how clean the meal is, and still has some nutrition in it!

  22. 25 Clamdip
    March 5, 2010 at 17:25

    Interesting and fun food I’ve learned to make at home. Brown rice California roll,
    Tofu pockets, crabcakes, miso soup, tabouli, kim chee. Did you know that the secret pizza sauce on a barbecued pizza from California Pizza kitchen is barbecue sauce? Stay at home and experiment. It’s amazing what you can learn.

  23. 26 LB
    March 5, 2010 at 17:28

    absolutely not. Advertising to children and minorities while advancing the declining health problem esp in the states, I say tax the h out of it.

  24. 27 Andrew in Australia
    March 5, 2010 at 17:31

    This is one of those questions with so many variables it’s hard to say, but basically no it is not. If you have high metabolism, genetic disposition not to absorb cholesterol, good stock, exercise regime, etc etc etc, you are better able to deal with such foods, but for most of us it is a problem. But as Ibrahim notes it is not the food, but how much you are prepared to put in your mouth. If you make it the mainstay of your diet you will be in trouble. Think also that such foods are by nature full of fats, sugars and processed ingredients to make it more appealing and quick to prepare and dispense. No one really wants to eat bland unsatisfying food, but think past this and think what you need to be a healthy person and resist your lack of will or complacency. Once in a while it can be okay but to base your diet around it is surely asking for trouble. And efforts by corporations like McD’s touting how healthy they can be don’t convince me at all. Blame them all you like it does come down to what trash or treasure YOU put in your body and indugling desire is not always best, Newton’s 3rd Law… ignore physics at your peril!

  25. 28 Archibald in Oregon
    March 5, 2010 at 17:39

    ” Supersize This!”, Fast food should have the same warnings that cigarettes have, with pictures.
    Fast food is one of the most insidious offerings out there; Having virtually no nutritional value, a fat and sugar content to rival any confectioner and shameless advertising promoting this culinary goodness solely with the dollar conscious in mind. There is no value in poor health, when healthcare costs so much and fast food is a sure way to an early and costly death. Definitely demonize!

  26. 29 rob z.
    March 5, 2010 at 17:43

    Fast food is popular because it’s convenient and cheap,in the US.It should not be eatten every day or night,but if you have a busy life;your diet suffers.
    The drive-through is great for thoughs who don’t want to stop for more than 5 min. to get a meal.Or for mothers who have a full schedual;Mcyd’s gives them time to do the laundry.
    The biggest thing is the cost,unfortunately it’s cheapper to got to TacoBell than cook at home: adverage price for chicken in my area is around $3 per pound,tomatoes $2 to $4 per pound,lettus $3 a head,bottle of Coke$1.89 for 2 liters-store brand $.79,totillas$3 a package,beens $1 per can,cheese $2,onions $1.50,seasoning $2.So after taxes the cost of buying the ingredients in the store is about $21+/-,the cost at At TacoBell about $15 to $18.
    Most people put cost before health.Healthy food costs more and takes more time to prepare,and the kids love the Happpy Meal.So as a parent ,you have a dilemma;giving your child food they will eat vs. a tight budget and a fight to eat the veggies.
    Fast food is not the problem,the struggle maintain yourself and family vs. the cost of living. Robz in Florida.

    • 30 Linda from Italy
      March 5, 2010 at 18:53

      Rob you’ve pre-empted me on the junk food = cheap argument. Maybe because I live somewhere where seasonal fruit and veg are much cheaper, and I do mean seasonal, which means no green beans in the winter and no broccoli in the summer.
      I won’t use up blog space by arguing with your calculations, but it seems your fresh food shopping list amounts to an awful lot of food, you don’t state how many you are feeding? How can “seasoning” come to $2?
      You mention “mothers” with a busy schedule – why just mothers? Surely the adults, of either sex, in a family have their priorities all wrong if producing decent food is bottom of the list and worth sacrificing.
      Another question, how long does it take to do the laundry? Stuff it in the washing machine, set the programme. Hang out when dry, anyone who wants anything ironed can do it themselves.
      Sorry, I just don’t buy the economics argument.

  27. 31 Bob in QLD
    March 5, 2010 at 17:50

    @Jens. I’m also into the Slow Food movement and sent the url of their website to WHYS suggesting them as a possible contributor to the programme.

  28. 32 Linda from Italy
    March 5, 2010 at 17:58

    I have to smile a bit at the image conjured up these days by “fast” food i.e. pre-processed junk that tastes every bit as bad as it is bad for you.
    I live in a land, Southern Italy, that invented the most sublime form of fast food centuries, if not millennia, ago – the pizza.
    For those of you whose experience of pizza is that thick, doughy, stodgy lump of something resembling a scone made by a psychotic cook, topped with thick gooey layers of no end of horrors, please come to Napoli (idea for an OB WHYS?), or anywhere in Campania and try the real thing.
    Granted it takes the pizzaiolo a while to make the dough then let it rise to perfection, but putting it together: the thinnest wafer of soft but crispy dough, brushed with extra virgin olive oil, then a light smear of fresh tomato paste and a digestible quantity of real local buffalo mozzarella and a fresh basil leaf or two, pop it into the wood-fired oven for a few minutes and ecco! The perfect pizza Margherita ready to tear apart with your fingers, it is just not done to eat pizza with a knife and fork.
    All fast food isn’t bad, just as all slow food isn’t good.

  29. 33 Maureen
    March 5, 2010 at 17:58

    There is one thing about McDonalds that is not appreciated like it should be – the safety and qualitly control of their food service and the clean, free bathrooms. Before McDonalds, if you were on a long cross country drive, you were rolling the dice when choosing a highway resturant. You could look for a while before you found one that was clean, and you never really new if they were handling the food properly. Also it used to be hard to find a bathroon when, let alone a clean one. McDonalds lets you use their bathrooms whether you eat there or not. That idea didnt exist before McDonalds. For these same reasons, people today in less developed parts of the world are very happy when a McDonalds opens in their country. McDonalds may not raised the standard when it comes to healthy eating, but they certainly rose the bar when it comes to cleanliness and hygiene in public restaurants and bathroom and that has had a positive health impact.

  30. 34 subra
    March 5, 2010 at 18:07

    The real problem is some people eat to live while others live to eat. If a person consumes 1000 calories and uses the 1000 calories either working or execising, the problem of obesity will be resolved to a great extent. There is no problem eating the junk food and balancing it with plenty of vegetables and fruits especially citrus fruits.
    Obese people must make an effort to walk faster and longer distances for burning the fats and keep fit, look smarter and live longer.

  31. 35 Linda from Italy
    March 5, 2010 at 18:10

    Junk, (rather than fast) food is quite rightly demonised. I have heard on a number of occasions that the popular perception is that is it cheaper than “real” food, at least in the UK and US, something I find hard to believe, and people struggling on low incomes who have possibly never learnt how to handle the real thing, think it is the only option for them. The aggressive advertising these chains have been indulging in for years has also managed to convince at least 2 generations that it actually tastes nice, maybe I’m the only one, but I find the picture at the top of this column a complete turn off, plastic or what? Might as well eat the box – fewer calories about as much flavour.

    • 36 Irene in Texas
      March 5, 2010 at 19:56

      Planning, shopping for and preparing healthy meals takes time and families with both parents working (possibly multiple jobs) don’t have time. It also takes a certain amount of education to realize that eating nutritious food should be a priority.

      Eat the box! Sounds like a plan. I may try it next time my daughter drags me to Sonic.

  32. 37 Kate M.
    March 5, 2010 at 18:23

    If someone is already going to McDonalds maybe this will help them make better choices and gain some portion control. I read somewhere that the logo will be on the 4 piece chicken nuggets. Eating 4 chicken nuggets is certainly better for you than 10. There are healthy alternatives at fast food restaurants.
    Ugh! No one wants to take responsibility for their health. I know it’s my fault that I am overweight. No one put a gun to my head and made me eat junk food. I am eating better and lost 12 pounds so far. I still indulge and eat junk food but I eat a lot less. I really hate it when someone tells me “It’s all about moderation.” But it’s true, moderation and portion control.

  33. 38 Mountain Adam in Portland, OR USA
    March 5, 2010 at 18:28

    Fast food and the accompanying fast food lifestyle are a large part of of the growing obesity, diabetes, heart disease and cancer epidemics sweeping the globe.
    Factory farmed food made for these industries is a far cry from the diet of our ancestors, and is not made for our benefit but rather the corporate bottom line. Buyer beware! I want to be on air, am having some mobile difficulties, will have them sorted out soon.

  34. 39 Linda from Italy
    March 5, 2010 at 18:36

    Historical note on the pizza in case anyone picks me up over this. The pizza Margherita, as popular legend would have it, is a 19th century invention created in honour of the then Queen.
    The older version, without the expensive mozzarella, was just the delicious bread with olive oil, tomato, garlic and oregano – real “poor people’s food”, not exactly overburdened with cholesterol, and really yummy.

  35. 41 J. Bailey
    March 5, 2010 at 18:41

    No, it’s not unfairly “demonised”. It’s terrible food in so many ways. If one thinks otherwise…well, I have no comment on that.

  36. 42 nora
    March 5, 2010 at 18:47

    Boring decor, boring uniforms, boring food, dead-end jobs, lots of trash left over. The one exception to my boycott is driving in the middle of the night on a desolate stretch of highway, I gratefully stop for the bad hot chocolate and the bad coffee purchased through bullet-proof glass.

  37. 43 Yasmine
    March 5, 2010 at 19:01

    yeah, fast food is and well always be terrible to your body. It’s all about gaining profit that’s all. If people want to eat healthy and lose weight, they should use their mind, think before they pick up something unhealthy or be couious of what they eat. The problem is we eat what’s easy and fast, now adays people just don’t like cooking meals for the family since they have a busy schedual.

  38. 44 Trent West
    March 5, 2010 at 19:08

    NO! It is not blame enough. Fast food causes more health problems than tobacco, but I cannot even smoke in a bar now. I say ban fast food also.

  39. 45 Andrew in Australia
    March 5, 2010 at 19:11

    People who say.. oh I don’t have time to eat right.. or to cook food for my family.

    Two things. You don’t have time??? You have time for a dumo.. time to put your pants on.. why not time to ensure your own health? Isn’t that somethign that takes precedence over any other thing you do in your day.. fuelling yourself, providing nutrients for yourself. You have time to stop for a latte! Get real on that point.

    No time to cook for my family.. well if you cannot devote time for the so called precious kids ou have brought into the world.. then hang your heads in shame. If you cannot look after your kids then you shouldn’t have them and in a way you are abusing them if you fail to feed them adequately or educate them on food.

  40. 46 Sheela
    March 5, 2010 at 19:14

    I can’t believe your guests are saying that having fast food 2-3 times per week is okay. The larger problem is that one fast food meal has almost a day’s worth of sodium and enough fat and enough calories for an entire day. To say that it is unfairly demonized is ridiculous. Just take a look around America and you can see the effects of fast food.

  41. 47 Todd in Atlanta
    March 5, 2010 at 19:18

    When I was a kid in the late ’70s and ’80s, fast-food was a treat that we had every once in a while ( once every 2 weeks, and occasionally once a week ) and that’s what made it special. This was the case for me and most of the kids I grew up around.

    Now a huge portion of people around the world (especially America) have fast-food almost ALL the time, which has led to the numerous obesity problems these days.

    To answer the question, it shouldn’t be ‘part’ of a regular diet of widely proven nutritional foods, but rather, an occasional meal that’s a special treat, or something eaten in moderation.

    I will say that I AM thankful for a fast-food meal that I can get quickly when I’m on a long road-trip.

  42. 48 Lauren in Portland
    March 5, 2010 at 19:18

    The biggest problem with fast food is not necessarily the nutritional value (or lack there of. It is the corporations themselves who shove it down our throats through tv, radio, billboards, etc. It is irresponsible. And I must say the same about the guest whom is speaking now. There is a difference between a pizza or hamburger that one makes at home and those which you get through a drive-thru. It’s processed to the extent that most nutritional value it once had, is diminished.

  43. 49 brian foster
    March 5, 2010 at 19:19

    Where did you come up with this advocate of fast food? At least half of what he says is flat wrong. Where did he get the idea that a arbohydrate can be metabolized into an amino acid? The BBC should check up on people before putting them on the air to propagate all this misinformation.

  44. 50 Cabe UK
    March 5, 2010 at 19:19

    @Linda….. um… Linda – could we have the recipe for that thin pizza please ?

    • 51 Kate M.
      March 5, 2010 at 19:27

      Yes! Please share.

      • 52 Linda from Italy
        March 7, 2010 at 14:32

        Hi folks, have just seen these posts re pizza napoletana, will have to translate my favourite recipe for you, then ask the moderators if I can use up blog space, or if they would rather just provide a link.
        Talk to you Monday.

  45. 53 Remy
    March 5, 2010 at 19:20

    Here in Africa, we have children who are becoming obese not because of fast food but just incorrect eating, so to blame fast foods as the culprits is abit ridiculous. Perhaps in the west the crutch to take the blame would be the fast food restaurants as people there never take responsibility of their own actions. It’s not the fast food’s problem – it’s the individuals problem, no one is forcing you to eat it. Do you know how food is prepared in hotels? There may be a difference in western fast food & developing world fast food?

  46. 54 Daniel
    March 5, 2010 at 19:25

    Nutritional value aside, the corporate take over of global food supply is reason enough to avoid fast food as much as possible.

  47. 55 Paul Johnston
    March 5, 2010 at 19:26

    Please ask your researcher guest who funds his research. Specifically, does he have direct or indirect funding from the food industry? thank you.

  48. 56 Remy
    March 5, 2010 at 19:28

    If children don’t know where the food comes from- who’s fault is that ? the individual or the fastfood outlet? (in response to Daniel’s comment)

  49. 57 Curtis Hartling
    March 5, 2010 at 19:32

    I’m pretty sure that human beings are not supposed to ingest fried food.

  50. 58 Tom D Ford
    March 5, 2010 at 19:32

    I found that I can make my own healthy lunches in appropriate proportions and eat for a week for what one meal costs at a fast food manufacturers outlet.

  51. 59 Mountain Adam in Portland, OR USA
    March 5, 2010 at 19:32

    Factory farmed food contributes to cancer by way of it being fertilizized by petrochemicals, as well as having pesticides and herbicides derived by way of petrochemicals sprayed on them. The meat used is factory farmed and not fed healthy organic diets nor are the animals allowed exercise which creates healthy muscle tissue which leads to tumor growth.

  52. 60 Nicholas
    March 5, 2010 at 19:33

    How can Vincent say that the quality of the ingredients in fast food are good? He The average burger meal comprises a burger, fries and drink.

    The burger is is processed meat, high in saturated fat and salt.
    The fries are processed potato and high in salt.
    The drink is mostly sugar.

    What is so high quality about the ingredients in that lineup?

  53. 61 Wil in Oregon
    March 5, 2010 at 19:35

    Fast food, and much of the pre-made food humans consume currently, is laden with hydrogenated oils and transaturated fats. These fats are difficult for the body to metabolise, and clog blood channels, causing heart diseases and also type 2 diabetes. Certainly, the “fast food” of McDonald’s and similar companies are not alone in their unhealthiness, but the contention that they are perfectly healthy is horrendously misleading and incorrect.
    In reference to the statement that fast foods can cause cancer: There is currently no concrete scientific consensus, but recent studies have shown correlations between elements of fast food and certain types of cancer.

  54. 62 Adrian
    March 5, 2010 at 19:36

    I would like to know what Vincent eats. We are all familiar with the awfulness of Anglo-Saxon cooking (if yu can call it that) Thank goodness for Jamie Oliver!

  55. 63 Tom D Ford
    March 5, 2010 at 19:36

    If you make your own lunches and take them to work, you can save up enough money to treat yourself to a lobster or other great dinner when the weekend comes.

  56. 64 Justin in Oregon
    March 5, 2010 at 19:38

    Although it’s certainly possible to eat some fast food and be healthy, from an ethical, environmental and health perspective our intake of meat should be limited and the way we keep farm-animals should highly regulated. Fast food is antithetical to these goals.

  57. 65 Eric (san francisco / KALW)
    March 5, 2010 at 19:38

    Fats, salt (sodium) and high fructose corn syrup are bad for you; any trained nutritionist can tell you that. The elderly gentleman (pplease insert his name, sorry) , the guy eating fast food burgers 6 times a week- are doing quite a disservice by denying this. On the other hand, a roasted chicked wrap sounds on the face of it quite healthy.

  58. 66 Cori from NJ USA
    March 5, 2010 at 19:38

    I think of McDonald’s as a guilty pleasure I take in while on infrequent road trips. The thought of making a regular habit of it makes me a bit ill.

    As a public health grad student who does a lot of reading on nutrition and health, I would advise anyone considering making McD-type eating a big part of their staple diet to do some research into the ingredients.

    Fast food companies are more and more able to hide additives like flavor enhancers, many of which are potentially neurotoxic or cancer causing. High fructose corn syrup, which may be responsible for a big increase in chronic kidney disease and obesity, is in just about everything, not just the soft drinks and desserts.

    And finally, if you have any concern for the animals that live in feed lots, limit your consumption.

    A healthy diet doesn’t come in a bag, box or styrofoam carton.

  59. March 5, 2010 at 19:39

    While I am not a fan of fast food (don’t like it much myself), I think the biggest issue is that we eat too much. portion sizes at fast food restaurants are HUGE and far bigger than what should be considered a portion for a healthy diet. French fries are not bad in and of themselves. A huge plate of french fries, or a burger with 2 or 3 patties and gobs of sauce, are just too big — more food than a person needs to eat.

  60. March 5, 2010 at 19:41

    Demonizing? Nope, rather telling the truth. Check out Greeks and other Mediterranean who still eat their original food. They live longer and have far less health problems than the newer Gen that is eating “fast food” imported from the USA. Meanwhile, high cholesterol and overweight is a huge problem in our Society (USA). I would rate any deep fried food or super cheap red meat way below 6.5 on that scale. Fish anyone, that is NOT deep fried?

  61. 69 Jenny
    March 5, 2010 at 19:41

    Why are we arguing about the merits of fast food? The truth is that people are going to eat it, no matter what, so I applaud Weight Watchers for actually providing some information to people that allows them to make baby steps toward trying to live healthier lives.
    For myself, I am fortunate enough to have the education and income level that allows me to shop for fresh ingredients (even out of season) and cook healthy meals from scratch on a daily basis, but I do occasionally stop and get a burger and fries.

  62. March 5, 2010 at 19:42

    Fast food like McDonals, and other chains, is not good quality food. We do need carbs, fats and proteins, but from good sources not from procces food. the body needs energy but also minerals and vitamines, for body to function., once food is very process many of the nutrients are destroyed, also the conditions of the food growing and the life of the animals affects the nutrition content in the food. I do not believe that the man in your program believes that the fast food corporations really have good quality, he better read michael polland’s books. HE said he has seen how good the ranches are, he is lying to him self and the world why do you think fast food is so cheap? It is not because of quality but the massive produccion and abuse of animals, the earth and humans. Why you think america’s health is so bad? and when this fast food companies arrive to other countries their health is affected? Really read more about nutrition and health not just pitty research paid by the companies.
    By the way, protein is still important for athletes and everyone, since protein is not just to build up but it makes neurotransmitters to keep our mental health. You need to learn more about physiology and biochemistry before you recommend that food. Food is life is not an exageration.

  63. 71 Tom D Ford
    March 5, 2010 at 19:42

    Fast food destroys the family by taking them out of the kitchen and dining room social situations and teaching kids by role modeling how to cook and feed each other along with conversations about their day.

  64. 72 Prajwal Khadka,Nepal
    March 5, 2010 at 19:42

    Nothing in itself is good or bad. Quality of anything is defined by how we use it. Eating so called healthy food in excess does not keep one slim and healthy nor does eating so called fast food in moderation make one obese and unhealthy. Don’t bing on anything… just eat in moderation.

  65. 73 garth
    March 5, 2010 at 19:42


    5 yrs ago had 2 physically demanding jobs and no time to cook and eat “proper” meals. i basically lived on mcdonalds and wound up losing weight ! thats when i realised that weight loss was a matter of calories in calories out. i was burning more than i ate and “magically” dropped the pounds.

    cant say what my cholestorol levels were or that i was “healthier” and I am NOT endorsing fast food in any way, but i think that technically you can eat fast food and lose weight.

    and i dont think fast food is unfairly demonised…it is designed for one thing only..PROFIT.


    ps the rather spirited defence of fast food by the good doctor/scientest make me wonder about any conflicts of interests?

  66. 74 Mountain Adam in Portland, OR USA
    March 5, 2010 at 19:44

    I worked at a McDonalds as a teenager. What we pulled out of the freezer to prepare for sale did not resemble food as most people would understand the definition of it. Not unlike what airplane food was once was and still is.

  67. March 5, 2010 at 19:44

    I can’t believe that one of the callers just said that parents that feed their children organic food do it because they want to feel superior. That statement makes me a bit angry, actually. My wife and I eat organic food and serve organic food to our daughter because we don’t want chemicals in our bodies. We don’t feel superior to anyone. We’re organic farmers and eat organic food because we think chemicals should NOT be part of a diet of any kind. To the female caller that probably pissed off many folks around the world, think before you speak.

  68. 76 Remy
    March 5, 2010 at 19:47

    Chicken & chips & pizzas tends to be the main food for the working class here & I have colleagues who eat this everyday & yet most of them are still as thin as rakes! Each one of us needs to take responsibility for what we chose to eat & how much we eat. Stop blaming the fast food outlets. You have a choice of what to eat & you should take responsibility for what you choose to eat & what it does to you.

  69. 77 steve
    March 5, 2010 at 19:47

    Doesn’t the feeling of sickness you get after eating it signal something to you? Sometimes while I travel I have no choice but to eat fast food, an I feel sick absolutely every time after I eat it..

    • 78 Remy
      March 5, 2010 at 19:50

      So why don’t you pack sandwiches for yourself if you get sick from eating fast food/? People with allergies avoid what gives them allergies. Shouldn’t you be doing the same?

      • 79 Wil in Oregon
        March 5, 2010 at 20:02

        Not everyone has the time to pack a sandwich, especially when they’ve been travelling for multiple days. Airports often only have fast food, and if you don’t have enough time to get out of the airport for something else you have no choice. The allergy comparison is inapplicable, because steve’s aversion to fast food isn’t lethal. In addition, even airports have clear labelling and options for people with nut, lactose, and other allergies/intolerances.

  70. 80 Molly
    March 5, 2010 at 19:47

    It is easy to avoid hydrogenated oil, trans fats, and high fructose corn syrup if you prepare food at home. Yes, if you aren’t paying attention to the groceries you buy then the food you cook at home can be just as unhealthy as fast food, but if you take the time to read the ingredient labels, if you go to the effort of buying fresh produce dried grains, and other ingredients that have not been subjected to the factory food industry, then it is possible to have a healthy diet.

  71. 81 Linda
    March 5, 2010 at 19:48

    I occasionally eat fast food and I am not against fast food but I must say fast food tends to be overcooked. And if you’re used to quality food you can taste the difference.

  72. 82 Gilbert
    March 5, 2010 at 19:48

    I think we should worry more about educating the public and specially our children regarding fast food; whether or not fast food is healthy or unhealthy is irrelevant. It is our responsibility to educate and inform people. We cannot go through our lives trying to eliminate every little bad thing out in the world. Just as fast food companies are trying to sell us their product we should also try to sell the public healthier eating habits.

  73. 83 Irene in Texas
    March 5, 2010 at 19:48

    Weight watchers in New Zealand is telling people what they want to hear and making a $. Not that I NEVER eat junk food or NEVER let my family eat it, but I don’t kid myself that it’s good for us. Yes McDonalds has an inviting atmosphere for squirmy kids. Another fast food chain in the southwestern U.S., “La Salsa” has healthier food, an equally inviting atmosphere and *surprise surprise* the kids don’t squirm. They sit quietly, chat with their parents and enjoy their meal. If Dr. Whozit on your panel with the autistic kid would pay more attention to his kid’s diet, his issues would be diminished. Call me a food snob if you want. Your kid is the one who suffers

  74. 84 Wil in Oregon
    March 5, 2010 at 19:49

    Any substance can be deadly once it reaches a certain level. Currently, the majority of Americans (and a sizeable portion of the population in other countries) are consuming too much fast food, and not taking preventative steps like increasing activity levels to ensure they do not suffer from it later. We know that these elements can be found in all foods, but the thing is that fast food has unhealthy levels of these components. It’s like saying, “Oh, you have arsenic in you, and you’re not dead! Now, here’s some rat poison.”
    The current problem is the lack of in-your-face information: people are never shown the external costs of their consumption. For example, no one is showing you pictures of a calf as it grew up in a feed lot, then was partially knocked unconscious before being slaughtered and butchered. No one is showing you what you might look like if you eat too much fast food. I applaud the posting of calorie levels in restaurants in such discerning states as California and New York. It shouldn’t be a nagging, unconscious guilt. All the costs of food should be exposed when you eat it.

  75. 85 Mountain Adam in Portland, OR USA
    March 5, 2010 at 19:49

    “The Omnivores Dilema” by Michael Pollan http://www.michaelpollan.com illustrates the dangers of factory farmed fast food in language the average person can understand. He outlines the heavy use of corn in feeding the beef cattle used in fast food hamburgers and the problems posed by industrialised corn production for animal feed stocks.

  76. 86 Eric McDaniel
    March 5, 2010 at 19:50

    It is rather evident that there is a problem with obesity in the US. Part of this problem can be blamed on the exsistence of food that is inferior in quality to other food. The other part of the problem is of course indivduals over indulding in a variety of foods. But I think this course of argument simply gets you into a gridlocked debate. If progress is truly to occur, it is through the education of how to regulate a heathy diet. This is something that is troublingly absent from a persons education in the US. I think this should be the area of focus on this debate. Once people are empowered with the knowledege of how to make sensable decisions, then institutions that provide pleasure foods are not the enemy, but instead a wonderful option to supplement a healthy life.

  77. 87 Cori from NJ USA
    March 5, 2010 at 19:50

    Here’s an example of some of the ingredients at Burger King:
    Chicken Breast with Rib Meat, Water, Seasoning (Maltodextrin, Salt, Sugar, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Garlic Powder, Spices, Natural Flavors, Onion Powder, Modified Corn Starch, Chicken Fat, Chicken Powder, Chicken Broth, Disodium Guanylate and Disodium Inosinate, Citric Acid, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Dehydrated Garlic, and Artificial Flavors.), Modified Corn Starch, Soybean Oil, Salt, Sodium Phosphates. Glazed with: Water, Seasoning [Maltodextrin, Salt, Sugar, Methylcellulose, Autolyzed Yeast Extract, Partially Hydrogenated Sunflower Oil, Modified Potato Starch, Fructose, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean Oil, Garlic Powder, Onion Powder, Dehydrated Garlic, Spices, Modified Corn Starch, Xanthan Gum, Natural Flavors, Disodium Guanylate and Disodium Inosinate, Chicken Fat, Carmel Color, Grill Flavor (from Partially Hydrogenated Soybean and Cottonseed Oil), Chicken Powder, Chicken Broth, Turmeric, Smoke Flavor, Annatto Extract, and Artificial Flavors], Soybean Oil.

  78. March 5, 2010 at 19:51

    The main problem I have in the fast food realm is with the frequent consumption of beef burgers. High saturated fat consumption contributes to everyone’s health insurance expense, and mass-produced beef is often a significant factor in environmental issues like accelerated climate change. It’s a “smaller world” every day, with many people thinking there are no consequences beyond their own noses.

  79. 89 Roger Sherratt, Bermuda
    March 5, 2010 at 19:53

    It was interesting to hear how rude, angry and belligerent the older Englishman, who is very pro fast food, kept interrupting and trying to demean the calm and reasoned opinion of the American who was anti-junk food and had some research to support his argument. Perhaps the Englishman should reflect upon his anger management issues which may be partially the result of a fast food diet.

  80. 90 Gillian of New Zealand
    March 5, 2010 at 19:54

    I think part of the reason many people are horrified by this is that they are not in New Zealand, so they don’t actually know how things are down here. Some of your responses talk of “factory farms” and 3 pint size drinks (1.8l, if my conversion is correct) but New Zealand doesn’t actually have factory farms. Our cows eat grass in open paddocks (fields). And our McDonalds offer more than just 3-pint drinks.

    As I understand it, what Weight Watchers has done is identify three “healthier” choices from the range available at McDonalds. McDonalds in New Zealand has been changing its menu for quite some time, often in the direction of healthier choices. I think the reason for this is that our “junk food” market is fairly saturated and the generation (mine) which was introduced to McDonalds in our childhood and teens has grown up. We don’t want large Coke, Big Mac and large fries as much any more.

    Like any profit making business, McDonalds is responding to its market, in order to keep its customers and profits. They have introduced cafe style food and coffee, and lighter meals – precisely because we (my generation) want them and we won’t go there if they don’t offer them.

  81. 91 Brian
    March 5, 2010 at 19:54

    I think the reaction to this is primarily one derived out of anti-americanism. Fast food is what it is and it will never be anything more than that. I applaud Weight Watchers for doing this, though I’m not a huge consumer of fast food, I feel that this is merely another reason for people to get mad at some very successful US based companies.

    Brian, Tillamook, Oregon, USA

  82. 92 Moe of Sydney
    March 5, 2010 at 20:00

    I think people are forgetting about a simple basics.
    Fast food by definition is a source of food processed with readily accessible energy in form of sugar, laced with tasty chemicals.
    “fresh” food or table food in general is food without the use of processed sugars.
    The gut takes energy and time to breakdown fresh or table food.
    There is nothing wrong with eating fast food, provided we take the time and allow portion control and self control from indulging in too many burgers.

  83. 93 Wil in Oregon
    March 5, 2010 at 20:07

    Dr. Fitzpatrick was incredibly rude and dismissing to the irruption of comments arguing that fast food is unhealthy in large quantities. He kept saying that “the science doesn’t support it,” but he failed to provide even a milligram of information refuting our arguments. Dr. Fitzpatrick, I cannot believe that you are anything but an industry-owned mercenary.

  84. 94 Nicholas from Manila
    March 5, 2010 at 20:11

    It is no surprise to me that the medical doctor was disputing the link between nutrition and health.

    Most medical doctors undertake little analysis or training in the science of nutrition and health. He may just be content with prescribing more and more medication to his patients with high blood pressure, high HDL cholesterol, overweight/obesity and other health problems, to treat their symptoms.

    I have great respect for medicine, but let’s face it, the vast majority of medical doctors have been trained to understand, recognise, and treat symptoms with pharmaceutical medication, NOT to address the underlying causes of what they are treating. Nutrition is a direct contributor health.

  85. 95 Guillermo
    March 5, 2010 at 20:37

    Fast food or junk food would be the same. But you have to go to the entrails of how it is prepared and from where do they get it. There is a documental called
    Food Inc., by Robert Kenner. After seeing how this “food” is prepared for the consumption you shall think it twice. If Ros has seen this, he can have another point of view. But obesity is a standard in rich countries and poor countries.
    The root fast food and junk food. Weight watchers has sold its prestige.

  86. 96 Cheshire Pete
    March 5, 2010 at 21:51

    I cannot see why you are all so confused by this agreement. It’s ABC in logic.

    On one hand the sellers of fast food want it to look healthy, so they can sell more.

    On the other hand ‘Weight Watchers’ is in business to sell slimming to overweight people – probably from eating fast food .

    Why wouldn’t they get together to support one another?

    Its a perfect match

  87. March 5, 2010 at 23:56

    I think fast food is unfairly demonised, because there is a lot of prejudice in the world about this kind of food, I do think fast food is good in many ways for instance when we do not have time we have to buy fast food and makes our life more easier.

    Lucho López, Peru

  88. 98 Bert
    March 6, 2010 at 01:14

    There’s nothing wrong with the idea of ordering up a meal in a hurry. Fast food can be perfectly fine. It’s up to the consumer to figure this out.

    You don’t have to order a soda to drink. Order a lemonade, or just get water.

    You don;t have to order a cheeseburger and fries. You can instead order a fish sandwich, a chicken sandwich, or an egg sandiwtch, and a green salad.

    Most fast food places have accommodated a healthier diet, so I think it’s unfair to broadbrush label their food as all bad. As usual, the real problem is with the consumers.

  89. 99 M Raghavan
    March 6, 2010 at 01:46

    I recently met a prodigious 11-year old boy who has started a program to encourage people to be fast-food-free. His web site will easily remove doubts about why fast food is bad for the individual and for the world in general:


  90. March 6, 2010 at 02:22

    If science says they are bad for health, they are. it is only our aim to bring it to the notice of the world what is good & what is bad. It is not demonising. Still if people want to have fast foods despite the warnings, it is up to them. Who are we to say they can’t.? Tons of material is available to tell the ill effects of smoking. But still people smoke! But we still toil to convince the smokers.This fight goes on & on.
    Dr. Krishna Kumari Challa

  91. 101 gary indiana
    March 6, 2010 at 06:11

    No. Fast food is intended to maximize the profits of the vendor rather than nourish the body of the diner. It is tasteless, valueless, malodorous tripe designed to make dining as exciting and rapid as defecating.

  92. 102 Subhash C Mehta
    March 6, 2010 at 07:06

    Yes; the fast-food or junk-food (as some people like to call it) is being unfairly demonized; we know what all good/healthy material goes into its making. One can eat whatever one likes and is suitable for one’s health. There is nothing ‘fast’ or ‘junk’ about any food we take; it’s either good or bad; and if we are discreet, we very well know what suits us best.

  93. 103 James Ian
    March 6, 2010 at 07:44

    “Is fast food unfairly demonised?” No, it really is crap!!

  94. 104 EBAYTKMAX
    March 6, 2010 at 10:16

    To Cori from NJ USA :- even if your list was 3 times longer, it would make no differnece to me & many others around the world because ….we LOVE fast food!!!

  95. 105 EBAYTKMAX
    March 6, 2010 at 10:35

    The picture at the top, looks SO nice, I’ll hve to have one today!

  96. 106 claudine
    March 6, 2010 at 14:41

    No, fast food is not unfairly demonised.
    Its is being demonised because it is the worst you can do to your body.
    We all know how a properly balanced diet looks like, dont we?
    Fast food is …not…a properly balanced diet.

  97. 107 Luci Smith
    March 6, 2010 at 15:07

    When thinking of fast food consumption, I always remember John Hinckley, who went to the same grade school as my older brother. After Hinckley shot Ronald Reagan, the police searched his residence and found piles of cartons from fast food.
    Do the transfats in fast food make you ill or do you eat too many transfats because you are unwell and unable to make healthy choices?
    I heard about a survey that said that people’s brains change the minute they get power. Fat and sugar and salt are are addictive, too.

  98. 108 Dennis Junior
    March 6, 2010 at 16:05


    Yes, Fast food is being very much being UNFAIRLY demonised by parties that don’t understand…it is the person own responsibility to make inform decisions regarding what type of food they eat.

    (Dennis Junior)

  99. 109 Subhash C Mehta
    March 7, 2010 at 07:17

    In fact, there’s nothing called ‘junk food’. Any food is either good or bad; what we want or don’t want to take, or what is suitable or unsuitable for us, is our own look out. However, as they say, excess of anything is bad; so it is with any kind of food, with its carbohydrates, proteins, vitamins or minerals or any other constituents.

  100. 110 James Kiernan
    March 7, 2010 at 11:09

    What a stupid question. If anyone responding to this debate says that fast food is good for you and that fast food companies are unfairly demonised. Needs their head examined. Fast food is bad for you period. For me to list the scientific reasons why it is bad for you would take at least 300 pages of factual scientific data. Most of you reponding to this article debabting the benefits of fast food either work in the industry or have a vested interest in it or are just plain stupid. So even my responding to this argument is mute.

  101. March 7, 2010 at 17:15

    Fast Food just fits in the general contemporary setup – of a people who are making themslves strangers to their own world; too busy and busier, fast and faster on an Earth that rotates at the same or retarding speed of 23h 56m 4.0s; getting too refined, too sophisticated and artificialised on a world that is rather crude but, simpler and natural.

    Livestock – poultry, cattle . . . are reared under conditions for fast growth, for quick service. I, therefore,see no cause for debate or plausible argument for or against fast food. I am only fascinated by the strange referendum on “Animal Rights” in Switzerland!

  102. 112 Justin Durueke
    March 8, 2010 at 06:31

    I do not subscribe to the notion that fast food is unfairly demonized. So many nutritionists have talked about the dangers of fast food to everyone. French fries are fattening and I do not eat them. In the developing countries, so many people are used to home made foods not fast foods. My point is burgers and french fries are very bad to both kids and adults. One can eat healthy and stay fit.

  103. 113 JanB
    March 8, 2010 at 10:55

    Fast food isn’t necessarily bad for your body: after all it contains the same basic nutrients that can be found in all human food and that our bodies need. Fat, sugar and salt are essential to staying alive but if you make fastfood your most important meal of the day and don’t excercise you’re gonna fat, it’s that simple, similar to meat or mashed potatoes.

    So, yes, you can eat fastfood as long as you excercise a lot, and no, it’s not some kind of diabolical poison, it’s just food and fastfood won’t make you sick or fat on it’s own.

  104. 114 username
    March 8, 2010 at 14:11

    Authoritarian people who want to ban things should be fairly demonised

  105. 115 patti in cape coral
    March 8, 2010 at 14:34

    It depends on the fast food. We have a Pollo Tropical here where you can get grilled chicken, shrimp, or skirt steak with rice and beans, yucca, balsamic tomatoes, caesar salad, corn and plantain soup, etc. Of course, you could just make this stuff at home and save a lot of money, it’s really not that hard; however, if you are pressed for time, it’s the healthiest choice I have seen so far.

  106. March 8, 2010 at 17:12

    We have heard and realised the worth so said wisely, ‘eat the least, the best’.

    An old aged 80’s once said jokingly yet seriously, “Junk eaters never get old.” 😉

    Does he mean, the least and best eaters live healthy, lengthy and happy?

  107. March 23, 2010 at 19:28

    fast food never good for you, with all that MSG and cheap materials.

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