Meeting with the Dalai Lama has been hanging over Obama since he took office. And much to China’s annoyance Obama has now met with him.
Awarded the Nobel Peace Prize he has a reputation for promoting peace.
But Zhang Qingli, the Communist Party Secretary in Tibet has said ‘The Dalai Lama is a wolf wrapped in a habit, a monster with human face and animal’s heart’.
China has previously cautioned other countries not to meet with the Dalai Lama. And also warned Obama not to meet with him.
German Prime minister Merkel faced criticism from her own foreign minister when she met with the Dalai Lama.
Obama dodged him last October in an effort to keep the issue from spoiling his first visit to China the following month. Which left people asking if the U.S was afraid of China.
Since the meeting China has summoned the U.S ambassador to express “strong dissatisfaction”. Relations with China are already strained after the U.S sold weapons to Taiwan and Google threatened to pull out after claims of Chinese cyber-spying. This has left some asking if this meeting is going to make a bad situation worse.
Why does the China seem to be so petrified of this 72-year-old Buddhist monk?
China views the Dalai Lama as a political threat and call him a separatist. And have blamed him for inciting violence in Tibet.
Since the meeting the exiled Tibetian Government has done what the Chinese feared and praise Obama’s meeting.
Here someone asks, ‘There can’t be anything harmful in someone so peaceful, can there?’
But Wong comments, ‘Dalai Lama is dangerous he plan to take over all of China!!’
Are the Chinese government right to be afriad of the Dalai Lama? Does he have any real power? Why do world leaders continue to meet with him?
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Right, yeah, sure, let him try, can’t get worse than the CCP, now can it?
Basically the Chinese (circular) mantra goes like this:
China: We don’t want you to meet the Dalai Lama.
America: Why not?
China: Because we do not want you to!
America: Yeah, we know that, but why?
China: Because it’s a threat to relations between our countries.
America: Really, me talking to a Buddhist Monk is a threat to mighty China?
China: No, its a threat to our relations.
America: Why?
China: Because we will punish you for it.
America: So there’s no real threat, and you are creating the problem yourselves?
China: Yes, I suppose.
America: But why would you do that?
China: Because we don’t want you to meet the Dalai Lama.
repeat… and repeat and repeat…
China seems to be the one most afraid of the Dali Lama –
and was probably looking in the mirror when it said that… ! Such a hypocrit!
My question is: is the Dali Lama peaceful? Doesn’t his position on China fly in the face of all that is Buddhism?
With China’s growing power in the world today, threatening to destabilize the balance of power, the Dalai Lama, viewed as a dissident, is the only weapon that can be wielded by the West to rein in China.
The Dalai Lama is one of the most high intellectual and spiritual
persons/leaders on this earth.
No one has to be afraid of him.
He has power -but- power of soul
A mighty kind of power.
No power to be afraid of-
his power hurts no-one,
Listen to this wise man and try to understand.
It can be helpfull,
on your way, in this difficult human- life.
This seems counter-intuitive. One would have expected the Nobel Peace laureates to refrain from raising issues that might lead to unnecessary conflicts.
Despite Beijing’s repeated requests to Washington not to interfere in China’s internal affair, the meeting went on. By refusing to give face to the Chinese leaders, Obama has forced them to swallow a bitter pill.
The consequence could be equally bitter for the supposedly newly established warmth of the Sino-America relationship.
I understand the need for diplomacy and tact when dealing with other nations by leaders etc.
But when it comes down to, just like watching parliament sessions, it is just about small egos, childish posturing, and corrupted powertrips by little men with sever personality disorders.
So when listening to the Dalai Lama/Obama/China nonsense I wish we would all just collectively lift two fingers to China and tell them to ‘get stuffed’. After all China, you really are nothing, merely a feudal society not interested in much more than grinding tiger penises, making money and poisoning the Earth which is supposed so sustain too many of them and oppressing your people for the sake of the political elite (did I mention murderers)! They only have some relative importance because we gave it to them, by business too greedy to support the local consumers they want to sell shoddily made goods to by giving their jobs to Chinese workers so they have no jobs to pay for those goods.
Maybe we should just bite the bullet, give back work to our own populations, rebuild our manufacturing infrastructure, retain our money and let China fade into obscurity and not continually pander to the Chinese communist leadership.
But hey who am I to tread on the toes of diplomacy?
What good came from meeting with Dalai Lama? Did it help the U.S. in any way? Why would Obama meet with him, what purose does it serve? About the only thing I can think of is that he wants to send a message to China that he doesn’t care how they feel, he is his own man and will do what ever he wants. Now why would he want to be an insensitive jerk like that I don’t know.
I thought we were trying to make nice with China so they would suport us with this Iran thing, Guess not? Guess Obama would just a soon make a stand on some silly political issue instead of trying to stop Iran from developing a nuclear wepons program. Well that sounds like government, can’t see past the insignificant political peeing contest long enough to focuse on any real problems.
Derailed again!!!
A benevolent dictator is better than any democratic system. No wonder the majority of humans would rather have a God than a government.
this should have been the days radio talk show topic. its an interseting situation.
The Dalai Lama is a holy man like any believer in any religion. That is his function and that is all.
RE “” Zhang Qingli, the Communist Party Secretary in Tibet has said ‘The Dalai Lama is a wolf wrapped in a habit, a monster with human face and animal’s heart’.
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——– Surprised Mr. Qingli didn’t repeat that old Han Chinese saw about the Dalai Lama drinking human blood out of a skull cap as the reason the Chinese stormed Tibet and destroyed Tibetan monasteries.
Down the roads of time, they will be seen as one of the great evil regimes of world history, whereas this Dalai Lama will be seen as a minor spiritual religious leader and Nobel Peace Laurent in the tradition of Gandhi or MLK.
When you cunningly throw out the rightful owner of a house and then occupy it illegally, you’ll always remain apprehensive or fearful of his retaliation, complaint and claim to the house; That is why, China is afraid of the Dalai Lama and his people who were compelled to leave Tibet; and that is why all this hue and cry about the Obama-DalaiLama meeting. It is high time that China starts to behave sensibly and sensitively towards the others’ sentiments and rights too.
in buddhism nothing is permanent everything is changing a smakllest unit of matter called kalpa aries and passes away 10 raise to 22 times in a second so everything in this universe is just a vibration so dalai lama represents holy indifference towards craving aversion and ignorance.
If you are meeting the Dalai Lama do it for a reason, not to defy China but to accomplish something. I dont think the Chinese should be telling anyone who to associate with but I also don’t think Obama should waste time with him unless he is trying to accomplish something. A photo to hang on your wall and a story to tell are hardly reasons the President of any nation should waste time to meet with someone. Today we need leaders who are not making statements but taking action, we need people who right or wrong are actually trying to accomplish something.
The Dalai Lama is a controversial figure only to China, we should all respect that but not let it impact our actions or resolve. I think that meeting with the Dalai Lama because China doesnt like it or you have political pressure to appear tough is insane.
‘Dalai Lama is dangerous he plan to take over all of China!!’
LOL
Helen said it. This should have been Friday’s topic, instead of Tiger.
It’s seems clear that China fears the Dalai Lama primarily because he is one of a line of the spiritual leaders of Tibet and has the people’s backing. Conversely, the Chinese, who invaded Tibet illegitimately in 1950, do not have the people’s backing. And why on earth should they?
I don’t think that Westerners should feel compelled to embrace Buddhism or otherwise approve of the religious beliefs or cultural norms of Tibetans. We would no doubt disagree with many of their ideas. I don’t think we need to create this aura of holiness on their behalf. The simple fact remains, what is it that makes the Chinese think that they should have free reign over Tibet? The Dalai Lama represents a free Tibet, and the Chinese find this threating of their sovereignty over that country.
The idea that Tibet would threaten China militarily today is, of course, quite absurd.
The fact is that China accuses the Dalai Lama of plotting the very thing which they themselves have already done–invade, conquer, and subjugate a another country. It remains true that the best defense is a good offense and it’s not just football players who understand that concept.
Still, a huge country like China with its long history understands that if one of its provinces gets its independence or even just the autonomy which the Dalai Lama advocates, it could trigger more unrest in its other provinces which may already be difficult to control from Beijing.
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The Dalai Lama is a prat, why is there such reverence for the guy? Have you heard him speak.? All this fuss when really the person Obama needs to invite to the white house is the democratically elected leader of Taiwan. End of story.
Only the one who doesn’t believe in being humane, peace-loving, non-violent, just and god-fearing would be afraid of the Dalai Lama. So, now you know who all could be afraid of him; In any case, it is a useless or hypocritical question, because my previous honest and blunt comment was deleted by you.
It’s incomprehensible how Obama gets chicken by receiving The Dalai Lama from a back door.
Now it appears that not the USA, but rather China that is dictating how the world should behave. Their authority surpasses their boundaries. The chinese autocratic government does not allow any freedom to the chinese people who are subjugated to repressive measures, so they think they can give orders to every other government in the world. A really funny situation for the democratic world.
China as a multinational state is afraid of separatism, because it don’t have an effective solution to this problem yet. It seems that they don’t understand how to deal with separatism staying within the framework of their political system which is based on an idea of centralization. I am not even talking about Tibet, Inner Mongolia or Xinjiang here. I am talking about many other provinces where it is very easy to see economic and other forms of separatism. In Europe we also see separatism in action. Examples include Scotland, Wales, Catalonia, Bask country, Flanders etc. But in Europe the consequences of separatism are easy to predict. In fact people in Europe, who share separatist views, pursue a cultural rather than a true political autonomy, and in any case want to stay an integral part of the EU. In China on the contrary it is very hard to predict the outcome of separatism. One might think that separatism in China leads to a greater freedom, but in fact this corollary is based on the European experience and doesn’t take into account Chinese specifics. Separatism in China will definitely lead to crisis of Chinese political system. Nobody can predict what the outcome of this crisis will be. In relation to Russia it was thought by many that the collapse of the USSR would lead to creation of a new democratic state. Much later it was discovered that these predictions were totally wrong.
Hussein Obama is obviously afraid of Dalai Lama given the low-key, almost “secret” audience. Interesting that “evil” Bush was not afraid to award him a Congressional Medal (and Ms. Merkel risked the existence of grand coalition because surprise, surprise socialists opposed her meeting with Dalai Lama, Sarkozy went ahead despite the protest of the Chinese), yet Mr. Hope & Change lets the Chinese (and the Russians) play him like a violin.
Thanks Mr. Obama for proving your oponents right that you are truly unworthy of the Nobel Peace Prize and that it has been awarded to you for nothing.
Meeting the Dalai Lama, in direct opposition to China’s efforts to prevent such a meeting, does not translate to showing fear. Nothing the U.S. president does publicly that is extensively covered by the press of the world can be considered even vaguely “secret.” Your argument has no merit.
Helen:
The real parties whom are afraid of the Dalai Lama is the Chinese Communist Party and the organs in Beijing that think the Dalai Lama is a dangerous fella to the world…..
(Dennis Junior)
It’s the new Chinese way of asserting itself on the world stage. Their way of retaliation; at the security council. The Iran issue because they hold veto power. They won’t play ball. That’s why Mrs. Clinton was urging Saudi Arabia to calm the Chinese by telling em that they will provide the oil they need if further sanctions are imposed on Iran.
RE “” Interesting that “evil” Bush was not afraid to award him a Congressional Medal “”
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——- Yeah, Mission Accomplished Bush handed out a toy trinket for little folke to gush over.
More telling is that he handed the treasury as a dowery to the Chinese and told them to have at the plunder of this unholy matrimony.
The Dalai Lama is supposed to be just a spiritual leader. China’s fear seems to come from the fact that the is so loved by his people, and a lot of the world. To be that popular gives you power, and China doesn’t like it.
It is a reflection of China’s problem. It is unable to properly assimilate Tibet, by refusing to treat the Tibetans well. The strident, never ending demands on the rest of the world to acknowledge that ‘Tibet is an integral part of China’. Even if it can extract this assurance from the world again and again, it is only China itself that can make it possible.
The issue is not just the meeting with the Dalai Lama. The issue is’is this a taste of things to come, while dealing with a China that keeps growing stronger on the global scene?’
For any of you who never visited Tibet, I’d like to point out a bit.
Before he fled the country, Dalai Lama was the Vice Prime Minister of the People’s National Assembly of China. Yes, a high ranking CCP official.
So Chinese first view Dalai Lama as a government traitor, then as one of the 2 spiritual leaders of Tibet.(The other one is Banchan Lama, who supports Chinese rule). That’s why they hate him so much. But afraid? I doubt.
Before Dalai Lama’s military coup, Tibet was under a slavery system, where the average life expectation was 35 and human sacrifice was widely practiced. Dalai Lama was the biggest slave owner in Tibet back then, probably the biggest one in the world.
Now with Chinese rule, all Tibetans are equal Chinese citizens and enjoy an average life of some 70 years. They now have food, water, can live free from the monk’s slashes, and even have their own house, cars, cell phones, internet, etc.
Supporting Dalai Lama shattered any value the Nobel Prize had in the hearts of Chinese, that’s 1/5 of humanity.
The western media can lie, but there’s reason why no one can break down the Chinese rule in Tibet, because they have the popular support.
“Before Dalai Lama’s military coup, Tibet was under a slavery system, where the average life expectation was 35 and human sacrifice was widely practiced. Dalai Lama was the biggest slave owner in Tibet back then, probably the biggest one in the world.
Now with Chinese rule, all Tibetans are equal Chinese citizens and enjoy an average life of some 70 years. They now have food, water, can live free from the monk’s slashes, and even have their own house, cars, cell phones, internet, etc.
Jesuan”
Half of what you’re writing is complete bogus (there were no human sacrifices and a 35 years life expectancy sounds bogus too, considering that even Somalia and the DR Congo have a life expectancy of about 50 years).
Furthermore, you must remember that it wasn’t the China of 2010 that conquered Tibet, it was Mao’s China, you know the country where 60 million people died because of forced collective agriculture, repression and slavery like (no pay and under force) deportations of people by the CCP (educated people were forced to work in the factories and farms, everyone had to wear the same clothes, people were killed or deported to gulags if even one Western or traditional Chinese book or object was found in their house, etc…) Sure things have gotten better after Mao’s death, but that was 27 years after the invasion.
Modern Tibetans still don’t enjoy freedom of worship, freedom of speech and basic legal rights such as the right to a fair trial with representation. The Dalai Lama has never said he wants to go back to medieval times and has even said he wants democracy for Tibet, even without complete independence from China. It is therefore China that keeps the problem alive by refusing democracy and human rights to Tibetans and Chinese alike.
The Dali Lama is a political figure associated with a religion. Just like the Pope. Or if you prefer the political head of the religion.
Several years ago I wrote to the Dalai Lama suggesting to ask for autonomy with China, he did!. Never got it and never answered me. It is obvious China annexed Tibet on a lame excuse, and has no intentions to compromise on the issue, and will not be forced into one.
China fears the Dalai Lama; but why? Why works the world the way it does? When so many promise answers, why do so many questions remain? The solution lies in the performance of necessary tasks. For almost every one of these, the efforts of individual workers decrement the work remaining. All tasks being finite, eventually they may be completed. The litter may be picked-up and the dust bins emptied. The crops may be tended and the harvest stored against future hunger. Artists can paint until all emotion is freed. The Post, milk, news and people may be delivered until the pouches are emptied. Appendices and flowers may be all cut, and the dancing may be all finished. A very great number of tasks obey this simple relationship; but exceptions exist: A single lawyer may generate more litigation than that with which one lawyer is able to deal. A single politician may cause more problems than all the world’s nations can solve. Philosophers may write lies that propagate as truths. Architects may design structures that are less convenient than the open field upon which they are built. The answer to your question is simple; but if people don’t know it, putting it in writing won’t help.