03
Sep
09

Should public nudity be a crime?

nakedJustin Holwell took his clothes off when he had his hour on Trafalgar Square’s Fourth Plinth. Are you offended? Some people certainly were. Should such nudity be criminal in your country? If you were in the Square, would you mind if your children had seen him? Do we all need to shift our attitudes towards nudity, or to stay put and make sure public nudity is completely unacceptable?


43 Responses to “Should public nudity be a crime?”


  1. 1 STEPHEN /PORTLAND
    September 3, 2009 at 17:48

    It should be if it’s me!🙂

  2. 2 adisa lansah
    September 3, 2009 at 18:15

    why is there a whole furore about nudity. o my Gosh, we came to the world naked.

    • September 3, 2009 at 18:26

      So, we came without clothes and we go with clothes.

      In between we cover ourselves to be decent in society as our naked body is not a thing of beauty.

      By nature a woman is beautiful and we men like to see them and women like to show.

      Would that man behave so in front of his children or those that respect him when he is properly clothed?

      What’s the point of this discussion ?

      BBC getting tired of you, Mam !

  3. September 3, 2009 at 18:21

    displaying her whole fiqure naked is shame based on some cultures. this isn’t right.

  4. 5 ryan
    September 3, 2009 at 18:23

    I think people who are scandalized by nudity in public have trouble divorcing nudity from sexuality. I would argue that this image is not inherently sexual (though I cannot see what is beneath the blurred out bit, so I cannot be sure), so what does it hurt?

  5. 6 Steve R in Florida
    September 3, 2009 at 18:35

    No is should not be a crime, unless it is being done just for vulgar purposes. Hanging out at the beach, pool, or in your backyard should be fine; but, approaching unsuspecting people and flashing them should be punished.

  6. 7 Keith- Ohio
    September 3, 2009 at 18:36

    Since the majority of civilized society deems it unacceptable, it is unacceptable in civilized society. You can’t argue logic in this case. The simple fact that most people find it unreasonable for others to be nude in public inherently makes it unreasonable, and unless someone is trying to cause an outrage, they should respect the culture of those around them.

    • 8 akiraoni
      September 4, 2009 at 01:39

      I’m sorry, but I really have to contradict you on this point. First, you’re logic is circular, and thus isn’t really logic at all but a fallacy in logic’s clothing. Second, just because something is status quo doesn’t make it appropriate. As someone said before me, nudity is seen as wrong or improper because people have a hard time divorcing it from sex. That doesn’t make nudity wrong, that just makes those people stupid.

      Thank you for listening.

  7. 9 Nia- from Portland
    September 3, 2009 at 18:40

    Writing from Portland, Oregon- I think what she has done is incredibly brave and I commend Lizzie on representing so many of us women who are healthy and normal, yet still feel like we are never enough because of media and social conditioning. She is NOT fat, she looks healthy, normal and beautiful and we should have more and more women like her coming forward. There’s a huge difference between being fat and unhealthy, and having a bit of healthy meat on you. BRAVA Lizzie!

  8. 10 gary
    September 3, 2009 at 18:40

    I find it incongruous most opposition to public nudity comes from those with conservative religious beliefs. Since these folks must understand the view to be inoffensive to God, I wonder at their hubris in being more critical than He is.
    g

  9. 11 Nancy/Oregon
    September 3, 2009 at 18:41

    What’s wrong with real? She’s interesting and full of life…not the blanks that the usual models are that we see in magazines.

  10. 12 Archibald
    September 3, 2009 at 18:56

    “Naked as Nature Intended”. A great 60’s era film. Clothes are a human invention, why do people care so much about something that is ever present, albeit covered up.

  11. September 3, 2009 at 19:05

    How funny those four pixels look in front of Mr. Howell in that picture.

    I agree with Ryan, since some people can not separate nudity from sexuality, although clothes also represent some sexuality. Seeing some in the nude mirrors their own shame. Shamelessness is displayed. And some people think, being shameless is something bad.

  12. 14 c
    September 3, 2009 at 19:14

    I’d rather not see any more naked people on the fourth plinth, in the middle of Trafalgar Square. How is it different from streaking? The bystanders (who are much closer than your photo)have no prior warning so they didn’t get to choose what they saw and didn’t know why they saw it.

    Personally I don’t want to see it on billboards either, I want to be able to look away.

  13. 15 steve
    September 3, 2009 at 19:42

    I think it should be an offense where the person has to pay a fine, but in the US, people actually wind up on sex offender lists for doing it, which is extreme. However, if God has such objections to p ublic nudity, I suggest me make it so that children are born with clothes on.

  14. 16 Nasimolo
    September 3, 2009 at 19:52

    Do away with the photos,she agrees she has no idea of the message to be put across,she Sold the photos for dollars,all else is PR rhetoric.

  15. 17 glen nice
    September 3, 2009 at 20:38

    As the incoming VP of a local nudist club, it will be part of my responsibility to promote nude recreation. While I will fight for our right to be clothes free, I believe in everyone’s right not to be subjected to nudity against their will. Anyone interested in enjoying the benefits of nudism in North America can contact the American Association for Nude Recreation at 1-800-TRY-NUDE or AANR.com.

    • 18 James Ian
      September 4, 2009 at 07:13

      Are there any good looking people in this group or is everyone old and/or fat. Seems like most people in groupls like this are either old, fat or both.

      • 19 glen
        September 5, 2009 at 04:19

        I am not old or fat neither is my wife. With over 230,000 members AANR(.com) has members and guests of all ages and body types. However if you want to stare at naked young women, we would all be happier if you just went to a strip club.

  16. 21 Jama
    September 3, 2009 at 21:26

    The question it self or even to question that is wrong and immoral why are we so obsees with nude and nudity have this world lost its shame and morals … please see things as they are.

  17. 22 T
    September 3, 2009 at 21:42

    What would it be like if it were legal? There would be lawsuits from people who are still offended. Polticians and govt. agencies would then get involved to regulate it. When can you be naked? How much can be shown? And if people are abusing the laws, how will the undercover cops work to be able to arrest these people? I see a reality show in this🙂.

  18. 23 Sharafadeen A. (Sokoto)
    September 3, 2009 at 22:30

    Those who scantioned public nudity and indecent dresses are sick in there heart. there is no differenct between them and animal (a very low animal indeed). Those who are in different about it were those who known niether wrongs or right. closed the ignorant.
    God in His mercy gave man the ability to create clothing and commands that will shoul cover our shame (private parts). Had he pleased, He may have leave us with our naked skin wandering in the bush like animal.

  19. 24 steve
    September 3, 2009 at 22:43

    Also, I would have less problem with nudists being held liable for the eye damage they cause sighted people, as usually the people you last want to see naked are the ones most likely to be nudists. Save our eyes!

    • September 4, 2009 at 21:03

      Jim Newman, kindly think of supply and demand and accept the textile industry is not forcing or inducing anyone to wear clothes.

      They produce clothes as there is a demand for textiles.

      We use forks at dining tables. Or does the Sheffield Steel people compel us in some ways not known to many except a few enlightened ones !

  20. 26 Jim Newman
    September 3, 2009 at 22:52

    Hello again
    I think those who want to wear clothes should do and those who don’t want to shouldn’t. The real pressure to wear clothes comes from the textile industry.
    There is, of course, a question of cold weather when clothes are a definite advantage for personal comfort.
    Laws against anything that does no harm to others are silly and a means of certain groups in society to exert pressure on the majority. Some can be particularly harmful, such as the religious laws against masturbation that at one time, I believe, were also state laws.
    To answer that particular question. No nudity should not be a crime and even to ask the question indicates a flawed and repressive society.
    Jim

    • 27 Dana
      September 4, 2009 at 09:20

      Its about context. Men and women can go naked on the Plinth, long as they accept being looked at.

      Should people wait tables, direct traffic, or get in a crowded bus while naked?

      When health, safety or decorum are involved, I think not.

  21. 28 patti in cape coral
    September 3, 2009 at 23:27

    No, I don’t think it should be a crime, but…. should there be designated nude areas, like designated smoking areas?

  22. 29 scmehta
    September 4, 2009 at 08:34

    Yes. And if there’s more the nudity in more the public then the crime is that much more; Isn’t it ?

  23. 30 Roberto
    September 4, 2009 at 12:31

    RE “” Justin Holwell took his clothes off when he had his hour on Trafalgar Square’s Fourth Plinth. “”
    ———————————————————————————

    ———— And what did Mr. Holwell have to say?

    All for naught apparently, or is that all for naughty apparel?

    All I see is WHYS lost a priceless moment to having the photo of Mr. Howell “addressing” that of Ms. Millier.

  24. 31 Norman from Zambia
    September 4, 2009 at 13:31

    It’s funny, but many of the objections will come from religious Africa. Before invaders from Europe to Asian brainwashed Africa into suits, churches and mosques we would have been quite happy to walk around in public with just the tiniest of thongs on. Men and women.

    What the detractors do not realise is how natural nudity feels as soon as you have got over the initial fear of the unknown and then that being clothed among the naked becomes more uncomfortable than joining in.

    Personally, I’d prefer more Lizzie and less Justin. Maybe Justin should try that in winter.

    The crime is to paint nudity as being deviant. Those are the folk who need jail time.

  25. September 4, 2009 at 13:55

    It got us talking didn’t it?

  26. 33 Jennifer
    September 4, 2009 at 14:27

    Yes, public nudity should be a crime. Why would someone want to be nude in public?

    Religion, God, has nothing to do with it; noone wants to see you nakie.😛

  27. 34 Jamieinohio
    September 4, 2009 at 15:10

    Nudity is completely natural and shouldn’t be made shameful. Children should be taught from a young age that our bodies are all different and should not be taught embarasment but rather respect.

  28. 35 Sylvia LaFrance
    September 4, 2009 at 17:57

    In response to James Ian…

    No, not all people in nudist groups are old and fat… matter of fact there are those who are young, healthy, and quite beautiful. One of my special experiences in life was to go go my son’s nudist wedding. For me the most memorable part was not the nudity… it was the vows… “I will not deceive you by commission or omission” was the phrase that stuck in my mind… and after all these years both have held to that promise and have one of the best marriages I’ve ever seen. Nudity for them is about freedom… but if you saw them shopping in a grocery store, you would never guess about their lifestyle. There are nudists all around us… but mainly they have the good sense to not take a swing when someone else’s nose could be put out of joint. It’s just respect.

    • 36 James Ian
      September 5, 2009 at 06:44

      Cool, as long as there are good looking people send me an invitation next time would ya. LOL Or just wedding pictures. LMOL

  29. September 5, 2009 at 14:13

    No. But the public nudity double standards when applied to women are offensive. How many guys go stripped to the waist on the streets and its legal when for women it is illegal? Its that old hypocrisy laughing out loud.

  30. 38 Stewart
    September 11, 2009 at 12:14

    I agree with Jim. People should be free to make the choice of whether they want to wear clothes or not. People who say nudists should have shame are wrong. its a choice of beliefs and morals. There are Christian nudists too, and not all nudists are amoral they just think differently from you.

  31. 39 Sam Berris
    September 24, 2009 at 18:14

    In theory, nudity should never be illegal. What are we covering — it’s just a person. It is, at this level, absurd that our own bodies could be considered intrinsicly obscene and thus be required to be hidden.

    Some writers posit that nudity should stay banned because they don’t want to see it. By that logic, however, I could suggest that those who wear socks with sandals (which is FAR more offencive than mere nudity) should be hauled off to jail in order to protect my sensitive eyes!

    As a practical matter, in a Western society that has historically not accepted nudity, the law should make a reasonable compromise. Nudity should be allowed at beaches, with designed “clothed-only” areas. While one may not be allowed to walk nude on a crowded street, it should be okay in your own yard, in the car, or momentarily in transit. Let’s be reasonable and not get uptight about the occasional sight of an uncovered human being! People would still be seen dressed in most places, but it would not be so absolute.

  32. 40 Andrew from Australia
    October 2, 2009 at 12:16

    As someone before stated, most people against nudity hold religious beliefs. I myself am christian, and I wish nudity were legal. Why?

    1) In the bible, nudity was natural to begin with, but became shameful over time. This is explained by sin. We cover ourselves up because we are ashamed by what we see. This goes back to many people’s explanation of detaching nudity from sexuality. Because of the Western societies immoral views on sex, we are ashamed to accept our own beings.

    2) Historically, clothes were invented to keep us warm, butover the years it has breached that boundary and moved into a fashion/power statement. I myself only wear clothes when it’s cold, or when it’s legally necessary.

  33. 41 barnaby
    October 9, 2009 at 07:42

    I think it should be noted that only one person out of thousands made a formal complaint. Even if 10 people complained, should we all bend to the most easily offended in our society or should they in fact be the ones to reexamine their constitutions.

    A common arguement I have heard is the “What’s the difference between this and a man flashing a child in public?”. Well the most intelligent among us understand the subtlety of CONTEXT, and those who aren’t willing to discern between an innocuous beautiful naked body and a masturbating psycho should not have their views entertained.

    Those who take offense believe they are upholding a moral code but in actuality, all they are doing is revealing their own complexes and lack of insight.

  34. 42 william woods
    October 20, 2009 at 20:29

    People should be free to make the choice of whether they want to wear clothes
    or not
    the Government or council could make loads of money
    If they made a nudity licence
    This would make people act respectability when nude

  35. March 10, 2010 at 22:27

    ridiculous. nudity should be legal! we were born naked!!!!


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