06
Aug
09

Homeless bound…

_39798977_homeless_street_203What do you do with a growing homeless problem in the most famous city in the world ?

You pay for them to go away. To relatives, to friends, to the country or state they came from in the first place.

It’s a scheme – initiated by Mayor Bloomberg -that’s been in place in New York  since 2007 and 550 families have taken up the offer.

bloomySome charities like the idea , arguing that it’s cheaper (some have been relocated as far away as South Africa) in the long run and every little helps.

Others say it undermines the real problem – a lack of affordable accomodation and training so that people without a home can get work.

Would it work where you live ?


25 Responses to “Homeless bound…”


  1. 1 Deryck/Trinidad
    July 30, 2009 at 11:37

    This is a tough problem to deal with. The economic system is Darwinian in nature and doesn’t really cater for the poor and homeless. Any help given to them is based on the fact that a dollar can be saved later as in the NY case. Therefore move the problem from your city and let it be someone else’s problem. But the core causes aren’t dealt with so the problem will keep recurring.

    It will not work where I live, in fact it will producea dependency syndrome.

    • 2 Helen
      August 4, 2009 at 16:23

      Survival of the fittest really means survival of the brutes and survival of the ones who don’t look after the weaker or the young. A Darwinian situation really packages and dismisses a situation that should not be packaged and dismissed. The problems in our society and most societies is that everyone is all wrapped up in”I Me Mine”and forgets about what makes a society or group survive. Because survival of the bullies and brutes means the end result is a group of bullies and brutes. I don’t want to live in that society but we are already more than halfway there.

  2. 3 Tom K in Mpls
    July 30, 2009 at 13:57

    I agree it’s tough. In a capitalistic society, there will always be a bottom. The goals are to keep the percentage to a minimum, prevent loss of life and provide a means for those with the will and ability to rise above it. Moving is a practical option. The most altruistic reason being, a new location provides new circumstances. The new setting may be better suited to the abilities of the moved individual and make it easier to get ahead.

    Since we are talking about individual people, the reasons for being homeless will vary dramatically from person to person. There will never be a ‘One True Answer’.

  3. 4 steve
    July 30, 2009 at 14:09

    Wow, what a good deal for the homeless. They can get paid to leave NY, and then get paid to be homeless in san francisco.

  4. 5 patti in cape coral
    July 30, 2009 at 14:36

    On the surface, it doesn’t seem to bad. Apparently, it is voluntary, and presumably some of these people have a family support system where they are going to. I don’t think this is really going to solve the problem to any large extent, though, just moving it somewhere else. I don’t even think this will really solve the problem for New York.

    • 6 Helen
      August 4, 2009 at 16:13

      I’m sure it seems voluntary but I believe if these people had the money to have a place to live I don’t think they would be on the streets. I first heard about homeless people(sometime in the early eighties,I think)and I also saw a seagull not long after hearing about our homeless people. The seagull was far inland,meaning there was no food closest to the lake. I cried when I saw the seagull who was also homeless in a way. We should try to find an answer for the desperate conditions that exist. And we need to stop thinking of”me first”. The problems start and they grow when we rush forward without looking at the whole picture and considering every part in the picture is important. We err by making other living creatures throwaways and roadkill. We lose our humanity doing that.

  5. 7 Anthony
    July 30, 2009 at 15:59

    Yeah, push them in the corner and make sure NO ONE FEEDS THEM OR GIVES THEM MONEY!!! People just enable homeless by doing this, and thats why they continue to be homeless.

    -Anthony, LA, CA

  6. 8 T
    July 30, 2009 at 17:25

    This is avoiding the problem. I’ve been homeless twice. And when it happens you don’t exist. People just want you to conveniently go away. How does that accomplish anything?

  7. 9 Jennifer
    July 30, 2009 at 17:28

    It seems to me like there needs to be things done to help homeless people. Don’t just pay them to go to another city and be homeless.

    Most people are only 2 or 3 months from being homeless. Many homeless people are mentally ill and or drug addicts.

    It’s like the immigration problem: where the people go the problems go too. That’s why you have to address issues in systems that are broken. Otherwise you will just move your issues to a different location.

    EDUCATION is the most important thing; it is one’s ticket to better!

  8. 10 nora
    July 30, 2009 at 17:30

    Katrina, Anthony. Natural disasters create homeless, wars create homeless, crashing real estate markets create homeless. Businesses closing or downsizing create homeless.

    While every town sports the alcoholic and mentally ill outdoorsmen, their chronic issues are an easy diversion from, say, the approximately 200,000 people living with kids in cars in Los Angeles County.

  9. 11 Anthony
    July 30, 2009 at 18:15

    @ nora

    I’m sorry. I’m talking about the “Bum”, the kind of homeless person who doesn’t want to “better” himeself.

    Do you know what I’d like to know, how is it, Mexicans come here with almost no money and almost no English, and have been able to mke it and now own businesses and big homes? I ERPSONALLY know people like this. You think some English speaking Americans would be able to do the same.

    -Anthony, LA, CA

  10. 12 Tan Boon Tee
    July 31, 2009 at 04:21

    This image strikes right into the very core of our incredible social discrepancy.

    While the poor shiver in the cold, the rich continue to receive undeserving bonuses or gratuities to enjoy the warmth of the tropical sun in 6-star resorts.

  11. 13 James Ian
    August 1, 2009 at 11:16

    I think the fact that so few people have commented on this issue speaks volumes.

  12. August 1, 2009 at 12:14

    “the most famous city in the world ” is the title given here to New York? Thats a joke and insult to the many cities worldwide that stand head and shoulders above it. Buddy can you spare a dime? has always been part of the American way of old dealing with poverty. Bloomberg’s scheme is just a predictably nasty spin on it. A case of bankrupt of money and ideas.

    • 15 Helen
      August 7, 2009 at 01:11

      I’m wondering if it’s the most famous city in the because of 9-11-2001. But the theatre district is famous and so is the cultural center.And it was the first stop for how many immiigrants coming to America. Is it the most famous? I don’t know. They didn’t say the best city or the city not without problems. Do all the cities that stand head and shoulders above NYC have no homeless or no people who might ask for a dollar if you have it?I’m not fond of NYC and have never been there. What is the most famous city in the world?Paris?London?Amsterdam?Salem Mass?It’s a good question. Berlin?Moscow!Jerusalem?Do you know the answer?

  13. 16 Dennis Junior
    August 3, 2009 at 02:53

    Would it work where you live ?

    I hope it would work, but, it would not have a chance never to work……..

    ~Dennis Junior~

  14. 17 Rhoda in the United States
    August 4, 2009 at 15:48

    I really hope that EVERYONE on this blog is blessed enough to keep their home, jobs, kids fed, good running cars and never have to go through what most of the rest of the world is going through right now as we speak. Hum… makes you think huh?

    • 18 Helen
      August 5, 2009 at 00:34

      Your heart’s in the right place Rhoda. I’m also in the USA and I already thought. And been thinking for a long time. I don’t feel blessed though I suppose I should. I feel guilty when I think about how bad other people have it. They would be doing better to have what I have. Which is at least the basics and a few credit cards.

  15. 19 Katharine Rutherford
    August 4, 2009 at 20:08

    The poor will always be with us.

    • 20 Helen
      August 7, 2009 at 01:23

      What got Him in trouble was that he made valid criticisms. And they woult tithe mint and rue(as if those do anyone any good). The poor we have with us always will never change if they are not given help. And He lived in a particularly evil time with particularly evil people who weren’t doing what they were supposed to do. Jesus made them angry so they did to Him what they had been doing (for how long?)to others. We’re all guilty for not doing anything. Some people are. But not enough. Rather than say”it’s a tough situation”and forget about it,I always want to something about it. It needs a lot of work to do that though. .

  16. 21 ARTHUR NJUGUNA
    August 6, 2009 at 13:56

    The modern world has failed given the so many individuals who are now homeless, and without medication. It is akin to the legendary pyramids that consumed the the energies of the masses so that one dead individual can be housed at the top. Ironically, the proportionally small top is made to have abnormally heavy wight so that the wide base is too quashed to recover shape or breath. Today’s pyramids’ tops (apex) are occupied by those who work less rendering the rest irrelevant. In ancient times, few people needed to work for anyone in odder to own a home. That aside, getting accommodated by family members and friends was no big deal.

    What do we have now? Just work and work in odder to ‘afford’ basic needs while trying to chase a runaway development which is demeaning a good number of able bodied.

    It’s good to have some leaders who can do some soul searching and come up with special needs like housing and medication even though they are getting only a few nods given grudginly.

  17. 22 Leisan
    August 7, 2009 at 09:22

    Homeless is prey of wars,violence. We should remember the world depends of our actions. And the homeless,poverty are the answering reaction on our actions.So that we alter our thought and relation,then the problem will over.

  18. August 8, 2009 at 01:49

    New york is not alone facing such problem
    it has become a globle issue/

    Every country, including developed countries of the world are badly involved in such homeless crisis.

    Population is growing,can not be control,so much option has been take but it remained beyond the grip.

    Poor countries,due to lack of agricultural technology has no good plan to increase its agriculture and industrial production so you can see joblessness every feild of life that is real reason of homeless.

  19. 24 Sean Mooney
    August 8, 2009 at 21:08

    What do you do with homeless people? In America they have extreems of super rich and super poor. If people cannot contribute to their own health and well being, then either by super education and upskilling to compete and or be equal.
    Half the rest of the homeless in the world make their way to what they perceive as a better living and a better country by upsticks and travelling thousands of miles towards that economy at the local peoples expense. They(the homeless)
    may see it as their duty and god given right to be a great burden directly onto the host nation. Resentment, competition, frustration and a general feeling of being overwhelmed by people from other nations who have nothing in common and determine to have nothing in common with the host nation.

    Every person who has earned the right to become a citizen of his/her country adopted or otherwise, has the right to have a roof over his/her head. If they become too much of a burden either because of illness or total misfits, then they can earn the right to be homeless elswhere.

  20. 25 babyelephant999
    August 9, 2009 at 12:06

    dont feed them and dont give them money.It just encourages them.


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