On air: Are you scared of North Korea?

You can’t have missed that North Korea has carried out its second underground nuclear test this year. Barack Obama’s calling it a “threat to international peace,” but are you concerned?

Do you feel North Korea poses a genuine threat to your country and stability in the world? Or are we over-reacting to a country that’s trying to get the world’s attention?

And of course the follow-up to those questions is, how should the world, and in particular America, China and Japan respond to these tests? Your answers please…

62 Responses to “On air: Are you scared of North Korea?”

  1. May 25, 2009 at 15:55

    I’m more worried about Israel’s nuclear threat to the Middle East – as for my personal security in my home, I’m more worried about the next false flag black-op that may be executed in the US to provoke who knows what – we know how successful the 9/11 black-op provocation was. If I lived in England, I’d be most worried about the same sort of event – e.g. 7/7 black-op Tube Bombing provocation.

  2. 2 steve
    May 25, 2009 at 15:57

    Whatever the blackmail payout will be to North Korea to get rid of their nuclear weapons which will give Kim Jong Il to keep his family in power, the rest of the world should sue A Q Khan for indemnification given it’s HIS fault North Korea has nuclear weapons.

  3. 3 Muthee in Nairobi
    May 25, 2009 at 16:27


  4. May 25, 2009 at 16:41

    At the ripe young age of 68, I am decidely NOTafraid of North Korea. In fact, I am at a loss to explain why the entire world is shaking in their collective boots over this. The rules of the Cold War i.e., “mutually assured destruction” still apply. They can build as many nukes as they like. It only takes one. Once they built and stored so many in the United States, it was understood that inevitably, every other government would have to have them, friend or foe WHICH governments have them is immaterial. Like hand guns, sooner or later everyone, in this case, every government will have to have one. The idea that only 3rd world countries could have one stolen by rogues is a fallacy. They exist, therefore they could be mis-used. I got over that fear in the 1950s. Grow some hair, fellow travelers.

  5. 5 Dave in Florida
    May 25, 2009 at 17:00

    Kim Jong Il is like a pesky gnat that keeps flying around your face. You swat and swat at it, but it will not stop bothering you. However, it does not have the desire or ability to harm you.

    Il makes these remarks every several months when he wants something. A compromise is made — and he backs down. Blah, blah, blah… Same rhetoric, different month.

  6. 6 deryck/trinidad
    May 25, 2009 at 17:07

    I’m not scared of a country whose political leaders are themselves close to death’s door and are losing power quickly as the onset of globalisation takes hold in their country. The leaders are seeking attention and economic favours from the West in order to perpetuate their strangle-hold on power.

    The West continually uses situations like these to stir up hysteria among its ‘so called educated civilised people’ who don’t really understand how the world political hierarchy operates.
    I would like to see all countries ban nuclear weapons and stop testing altogether.

    Some countries shouldn’t be able to have nuclear weapons while others can’t. The probable dangers posed by nuclear weapons as well as the billions of dollars wasted should be spent better.

  7. 7 David
    May 25, 2009 at 17:08

    Let those who are not guilt of same cast the first stone. Let the people of the world live in peace. It is common sence that a fight between two or so people starts when one is dimonised or threatened. Why can’t we live in peace? Is “I will show you who I am mentality the answer”? There are so many people displaced and on the move as it is today that the last thing the world needs is more on the move.

    Dialogue please.

  8. May 25, 2009 at 17:15

    The countries neighbouring N. Korea are obviously in danger to the whims and fancies of the meglomaniac leader of North Korea. They have reneged on their past agreements. The time is past overdue for all countries to put an embargo on everything that matters to the North Korean leadership. No more free food supplies. The fact is they have lied and keep finding excuses to continue their blackmail, China must be the main country to pressure N. Korea without them it would be most difficult to make them behave in the future.
    Unfortunately the people of N.Korea will suffer tremendous hardships because of their leader who should be removed one way or another.

  9. 9 deryck/trinidad
    May 25, 2009 at 17:15

    Annihilation, armageddon, destruction that is the plight facing all of us if someone should begin a nuclear war. I can’t see the Capitalistic West starting that war. I can’t see the communists property grabbers and controllers of all that they survey starting that war. But I could see a mad muslim with a promise of going to heaven as saint to meet forty virgins becoming a (Nulear Suicide Bomber, NSB).

  10. May 25, 2009 at 17:27

    How can the world fail with a single country like North Korea? What Can they do that other countries like China, South Korea, India, Nigeria, Japan, Holland and the Great United States can’t do? I cannot condemn what President Obama said. The International Community need to see about what is going on in North Korea, or else they will one day claim the world super powership trophy, which they are not competent for. Let us not sit down and turn our back on them because we dont know what is their next target. Fixing weapons of mass destruction is their paramount concern and not the unionization of the Globe.

    Mohammed Kondawa

    Monrovia Liberia

  11. 11 Tom D Ford
    May 25, 2009 at 17:30


    But the people in the countries surrounding North Korea ought to be.

  12. 12 Agaba Sam
    May 25, 2009 at 17:31

    How come a country with no food can reach this far? for many countries much that is going on is known through the press. for North Korea it is a black box. and now with in two months it is showing its might. i think left un attended to North Korea will hold us all to ransom.

  13. 13 Dennis Junior
    May 25, 2009 at 17:57

    Yes, I am somewhat concerned over North Korea and its ongoing behaviour regarding Nuclear Weapons and its other misbehaviour….

    ~Dennis Junior~

  14. 14 Paul Harbin - Waco Texas
    May 25, 2009 at 18:05

    I say the pen is mightier than the sword, because after all does it not “control” the sword? We need to be word-smiths and forge thought, not weapon-smiths forging destruction. Pursue with a great ferocity thought … and maybe we can see some real action. I don’t think communication is a lost cause, we have to communicate, otherwise, nobody would be on this very forum.

  15. 15 Vijay
    May 25, 2009 at 18:11

    @Steve Question Who trained the Pakistani Nuclear and Aeronautical engineers ,A Q Khan et al?Answer the USA and China.
    What was that Iran Contra thing all about?

    Are you scared of north korea?

    No,they are just trying to shake down everybody in the neighbourhood by posturing and sabre rattling.
    As long as there are 30,000 plus US troops in South Korea and the Korean conflict has not officially ended,they can justify spending all their money on defence instead of food,because hey there are at war ,the enemy is at the gates and they are fighting for survival.
    I just hope the North Koreans can teach the Japanese how to right History ,before this whole thing is over.

  16. 16 Jason, Vancouver WA
    May 25, 2009 at 18:12

    By definition a fascism government should always be feared, if not for our safety than for the safety of that country’s citizens. I hope the day never comes that neighboring countries will be forced to aggressively act, because it’s North Korea’s normal citizens that will pay the price.

  17. 17 Taka
    May 25, 2009 at 18:21

    Not scared at all. It seems that the people we should be scared of are actually those countries which are the mass producers of arms of war. More people die per day from conventional arms than from nuclear arms. I am more scared of the US who have the capacity for vigilantiism, indiscriminate retaliatory air strikes (remember Clinton in 1998) and retaliation. Since when did all the countries citing breaches of UN reglations follow the dictates of international law. People want to make their enemies the enemies of others. If anyone should be climbing down it is the US and Russia whose nuclear stockpiles still comprise probably over 75% of the world’s nuclear arsenal. When the US’s creditors demand payment in full I have a feeling we will be wishing that we had treated the US the same way it tries to treat North Korea.

  18. 18 Mary
    May 25, 2009 at 18:21

    The Nuclear Proliferation treaty needs to get that back on track worldwide. Destroy and reduce Nuclear arsenals worldwide.
    Economic Sanctions are in order against N. Korea. And the worldwide Corporate Military Industrial complex has to stop the consumer machine of war.

  19. 19 RiverBee
    May 25, 2009 at 18:23

    Fear seems to drive the reactions of most of the world these days. Fear on every level will drive us to actions that are untenable. Discuss, compromise, discuss, evaluate. One hopes the calm and even toned response of President Obama will spread and the irrational behavior and posturing that comes from fear will be eased and cooler heads will prevail. I personally refuse any fear generated by opinions of people moving in fear. Fear is not an option.

  20. 20 Tseguy
    May 25, 2009 at 18:26

    if N. Korea is not going to use it, because it would be suicidal, let them manufacture a miniature bombs to every of its citizens, if they have the appetite for that.
    The sadest thing is China is not using its leverege to influence N.K.
    I am not worried, she is not going to use it in 1000 years. The only but is if N.K. sells the bombs to terrorist groups or states who do not hasitet to do so

  21. 21 Enagha, Dallas
    May 25, 2009 at 18:30

    I an certainly not scared of North Korea. On the contrary i am baffled when i cannot understand how it manages to feed its people. Like a poppy seeking the attention of its mother NK needs to focus on becoming economically viable and stop seeking world attention on its cowardly ability to become a military superpower.

  22. May 25, 2009 at 18:33

    The whole world is responsible to stop the use of war and weapons – WAR is obselete.Those who follow the warmongers be it civil war or war by drug cartels or war by governments. It has to stop. It is time for the women and men who really want peace to make it happen. Stop being slaves to violence and hate and repeating like mindless parrots words of hate and distrust. The world cannot afford adolescent behaviors like this.
    The Dali Lama has said: ” Violence is as sign of weakness and a loss of imagination”. We train youth around the world to kill. We fightover resources, power over people and land, we fight over religious ideology. ALL Nations and groups collectively have stop behaviors that are considered psychpathic in individuals.

  23. 23 tochukwa
    May 25, 2009 at 18:37

    In my opinion,I think North Korea is a country that wants to be noticed,America and the rest of the world thinks its a threat to them! They should have used their nuclear weapons to destroy America and the rest of the world if they wish.who will stop them?nobody.Their is one thing to note:they dont have money like America,they dont have political power like Britain

  24. 24 Amit in Bangalore
    May 25, 2009 at 18:38

    I feel North Korea can be only told so many times to stop taking such threatening steps of aggression. They seem to love to play deaf to world opinion and this is relevant to an earlier debate you had on whether some countries are just deaf to world opinion or not. UN sanctions seem to do no good and only a blockade which appears a tad harsh but has to be done as they are not listening to anyone. Why does any country need nuclear tests, deals? Its not as if tomorrow all of a sudden we will start bombing each other at the sound of a pop. Weapons need to be there but only so much for emergencies and not be stocked for full war mode all the time……North Korea needs to stop and think “Hey, they are asking us to stop as they feel threatened by our aggressive steps and maybe we need to talk with the outside world” and not “Hey, they seem to be threatened by us and it means we are doing a good job of keeping our enemies fearful”. No one is an enemy until they cross the line and North Korea seems to not see it all the time. The outside world could crush them at anytime but they continue wantingly unaware of what outsiders think. I finally say that war is not an option, never was, never is and never will be ! It is just left to interpretation of a situation and war is not good for anyone. Its easy for me to say that we can all be friends (diplomatically) but it seems we just cant.

    What do they (North Korea) aim to achieve? Hopefully we can find out soon enough somehow…………………………….

  25. 25 Vijay
    May 25, 2009 at 18:38

    Don’t the Japanese have 15 trillion US$ in savings tucked away.
    Surely now the North Koreans have upped the ante,the Japanese will have to stimulate the US Defense sector by placing massive orders for military hardware needed to defend themselves.
    Maybe Kim jong il will get a kick back.

    • May 26, 2009 at 11:36

      You have hit the nail on the head, Vijay. Just weeks ago, the US and South Korea carried out a military exercise at North Korea’s door. North Korea must also feel very intimidated by the presence of 30,000 US troops in South Korea. The world leaders and the western media are blind and deaf to this warmongering, provocative acts on the part of the US. The NATO, under US stewardship, aslo planned a military exercise with Goergia on Russia’s border. Can we blame North Korea or Russia if they shore up their own defences in the face of such mindless, provocative conduct by the US ?

      It would be morally repugnant if the US is to continue to use wars to sell arms to boost its economy.

      I am not scared of North Korea’s acts at all. The world should be afraid of the US that is the real axis of evil.

  26. 27 Rolf in Illinois
    May 25, 2009 at 18:39

    The Western Nuclear Powers looked the other way as Pakistan acquired nuclear technology and even secretly sold those materials and equipment. We also allowed Israel the nuclear bomb. So why are we continuously trying to deny any nation its inherent right to technology of any kind if it doesn’t harm another nation based solely on some pre-emptive bias. It is time to stop all this foolish maneuvering and bantering and allow North Korea to proceed with their desires. It is time to get off our fears and move to solve real World issues instead of wasting resources and time in UN nonsensical debates and sanctions. This is no longer diplomacy but just schizophrenic reactions.

  27. 28 Andrew - Australia
    May 25, 2009 at 18:40

    Unlike other global threats, the Nth Koreans would appear to be isolated and conspicuous if acting outside their national boundaries. As such we know the threats from them and presumably able to neutralise them as they appear. The NKs are on the brink of collapse and militarily should not be a problem. Their traditional ally is not likely to ruin its world standing to defend them if there was a conflict and not that eagre to assist them as it is. There are other threats that are far more serious and insidious to worry about and Nth Korea would seem to be the least of our worries. Time will tell what happens once Kim Jong Il ends his reign though it is unlikely that the power brokers will relinquish their absolute authority quickly or easily, but a change will inevitably come.

  28. 29 Per in Portland
    May 25, 2009 at 18:40

    Does any other nation test their nuclear weapons?
    If so, why should North Korea be singled out?

  29. 30 Oliver in Lusaka,Zambia.
    May 25, 2009 at 18:41

    Every well meaning person should condemn this nuclear test by north korea. Think of what happened in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It all looks like north korea wants some attention from the international community,but i would go for diplomacy so as to neutralise its desired interest for weaponry supremacy. I also believe that obama should also refrain from using the word ‘action’ because it will only make the norht koreans excited. As a matter of fact,north korea wants ACTION.

  30. May 25, 2009 at 18:41

    North Korea is mainly a threat to its neighbours who are within the range of its nuclear missiles. Happy are the African s who are outside the sphere of nuclear danger.

    North Korea is scaring the world with its nuclear tests, why can’t the world scare it with the utmost sanctions at wants instead of continuing with drip drip hard actions? The wortld now needs acting, not just mere talking.

  31. 32 Brian from Calif.
    May 25, 2009 at 18:41

    This is Kim Jong “I’m feeling kinda ill”. We waited the USSR out we can wait this guy out too. Did you see the Wall Street Journal story this week of the guy who has mapped out various top secret sites in North Korea?

  32. 33 Brian - Berlin
    May 25, 2009 at 18:41

    I regularly look at the KCNA, the North Korean news agency site. It’s stories are so hallucinatingly far from reality that it makes me wonder if the whole North Korean idea, even of themselves, isn’t a kind of simulation, far beyond anything imagined by George Orwell’s “ministry of truth”.
    Their top stories always include “Floral Baskets” presented to Kim Jong-Il, “international praise” from groups of two or three supporters in Peru or Norway, and operas pledging undying allegiance to the immortal light of the world President Kim Il Sung, who is dead.

  33. 34 Tom
    May 25, 2009 at 18:42

    Your American guest is talking about U.N. sanctions against North Korea. Yet, when the U.N. votes for resultions against Israel for their actions, the U.S. consistently votes against them. Seems like a double standard to me.

  34. 35 Anon
    May 25, 2009 at 18:42

    My worry about the TESTS is damage to the environment,the ecosystem and the stability of the earth’s integrity.My worry about their intentions is less than my concern for the reasons their government has in their reluctance or refusal to participate in dialogue or to compromise.Brute force and destruction or the threat of it without reasonable communication is cause for concern.The world political diplomatic body needs to be concerned about damage to the earth’s physical stability when suffering the percussive impact of the force of these underground nuclear tests.

  35. 36 Bill - LA CA
    May 25, 2009 at 18:43

    How do we know that it’s the Koreans doing the testing.
    How about The Iranians?

    • May 28, 2009 at 22:28

      look instead of talk about iranians & coreans why don’t we ask usa to get rid of it’s nuclear to proof to the other countries who are trying to improve or even think of making nuclear also all countries are scared now from usa look at iraq and usa they were friends but usa turned up and made war on iraq which is spooky

  36. 38 Daniel
    May 25, 2009 at 18:44

    I’m not at all worried about North Korea because they know if they were to drop any bombs they will be annihilated. We need not worry about violent countries…we only need to worry about violent groups because a violent group doesn’t have a permanent location that could be destroyed.

  37. 39 Daniel
    May 25, 2009 at 18:45

    The future concern is for perfecting&selling these weapons.Or am I repeating what has already been said?

  38. 40 Joe in Houston, Texas, USA
    May 25, 2009 at 18:46

    It seems to me North Korea is China’s problem, not the United States’. China helped North Korea along in getting nukes.
    If North Korea continues testing they will eventually get something wrong, and will send a plume of radioactivity in a random direction.
    The closest country to the nuclear test site is China. Or, North Korea will excite one or more additional countries on China’s borders to go openly nuclear. China already borders four nuclear powers, what’s one or three more? Eventually Chinese self interest is going to win out over 1950’s nostalgia for an old ally.

  39. 41 Ubani A.- Nigeria
    May 25, 2009 at 18:47

    I think the North Koreans believe that they are doing what is neccessary to safeguard their country, and their way of life, the nuclear weapons that they are developing is more likely meant to serve as deterrents just like that of the British, the Americans, and the rest.
    I believe the belligerent attitude of successive Western governments have gone a long way in creating the kind of North Korea that we have today, this may be time for a change of tone and attitude towards the regime and the people of North Korea.

  40. 42 Mark - Chicago, USA
    May 25, 2009 at 18:48

    Beyond sanctions and enforcing resolutions, we should “bomb” the North Korean people with information. They live in an insane vacuum of fear, absurd misinformation, and freakish propaganda. Fostering movements to have the people retake their country would be a long term solution and information from the outside world is the first step.

  41. 43 WN - Madison, WI, USA
    May 25, 2009 at 18:49

    I say, “Bring it on!” Hooray to North Korea on exploding a nuclear weapon and I hope that it does so with bigger ones as do other non-countries.

    It is about time that five members of the “nuclear club” adopt the NPT provisions, like dismantling their considerable nuclear armories. But this has NEVER happened. The status quo promotes the hegemony of the ‘usual suspects’ who not only maintain large arsenals as well as use these ghastly weapons as implicit threats, like saying “all options are on the table” to bring ‘recalcitrant’ countries into line. This is especially true with the US and UK, the twins of regime change.

    I look forward to more countries joining the nuclear club but not on the terms set forth by the present system. Instead, we need a new world order that is fair to all instead of modifying the present system which is broken. Personally, I’d like to see the banishment of nuclear weapons but short of that, I would like to see evry country with a few. Like passing around the candy!

    A nuclear weapon in every countries’ back pocket brings about respectful diplomacy.

    PS I dare you to read or post my comments.

    May 25, 2009 at 18:49

    I come from a non nuclear third world state whether you are talking about weapons or atomic power. Am I threatened by North Korea? The answer is that I am threatened by all nations that have nuclear weapons wherever they may be as well as being appalled by their insincerity and lack of coherence while dealing with danger which is moving nearer as the clock ticks.

    I feel that something is terribly wrong in the world we are living in today. Nuclear technology as dangerous as it is has become an item of prestige. It is the only achievement that most country brag about openly to the rest of the world.
    There have been good turning points when this threat could have been ended during the time of Gorbachev and Reagan. There was mutual willingness to end this threat in the globally but this opportunity was scuttled and swept under the carpet and what started was the current climate of mistrust and dishonesty surrounding this issue. This world dear Watson is not currently about peace; not at the moment; it is not about eliminating nuclear threat. The world wants to do business with nuclear technology since it is a premium industry. It is seen as tomorrows energy source once oil dries up.
    Recently we were told that Russia can not be trusted because of the military incursion in Georgia despite being provoked by Georgia. What is not clear too is the expansion of the west towards Russian as well as strategic installations.
    I am personally portaged by the following questions
    Why do America and its allies need these weapons?
    Why do Russians and Chinese need these weapons?
    For what purpose do the Pakistanis and Indians need these weapons and who owns their weapons?
    Why do other countries need nuclear weapons?
    Why do Israelis and Koreans need these weapons?
    Somebody has to make the first move towards peace in an honest manner and convince the non believers that the world does not need nuclear weapons or its commercial aspects which can be misused. What we need is a good weather and less pollution. Ironically, none thinks this is commercially viable since there are no short term gains. We do not know who to initiate the necessary nuclear technology reversal move though the big powers can start; if they believe that eventually there might not be a true winner in any event of confrontation(s) among club members. The problem is that, their credibility is dented because of dishonesty and roll back of meaningful initiatives in the past.
    We are in the arms race in what can be described as catch-22. Any attacks will lead to more proliferation. And the UN — see what it is now? Its just Club talk and getting ignored by everyone.

  43. 45 Yves
    May 25, 2009 at 18:50

    Of course, I am fearful of the north-corean activities. If there is a nuclear war in our future, it will start become of regimes like Pyong-Yang. Whether they are the direct aggressor, or through the nuclear technolony they will provide to other “crazy” groups, which are unafraid of starting such disastrous conflict.
    My hope is that the international community will really speak with a concerted voice against such activity, and work together (maybe I am naive!) to solve the problem before it imploses.

  44. 46 sidneyv lanier
    May 25, 2009 at 18:51

    you mentioned that Israel has nuclear weapons why do they keep it a secret,\why was there not this debate with their program? are they signed up to any nuclear protocol?.

    • May 25, 2009 at 23:52

      they wont debate any thing about israel becouse there’s rich persons who are ready to sue the bbc than ask them for apology who knows they will ask for money too they didn’t even could stop israel when it was killing bombard innocent people so let’s only talk about the countries who refused to kneel down to usa

  45. 48 sumon
    May 25, 2009 at 18:51

    to be truthful, i am not scared at all rather i am deeply shocked having seen mindset of Israel. also feel embarrassed seeing silences of USA towards them. at this moment, the matter of alarming is the hatred policy of USA to dominate others and destruct any countries particularly Muslim countries with lame cause.

  46. 49 Bruno
    May 25, 2009 at 18:56

    Having familly in Lebanon, I am much more concerned with a country like israel having nuclear weapons than North Korea. North Korea only growl and show its teeth. It don’t invade and bomb the hell out of people.

    May 25, 2009 at 19:12

    Guys, this is no comedy and it should be clear to everyone that, if this trend continues they way it appears now, our civilization will one day be nothing but an illusion or a mirage when all solace is destroyed. Its not time for super this or that nor greater this or that. We should be looking at common survival because we are all interconnected by threat and prosperity if we take the initiative to eliminate danger.

    I do not trust the world with positive answers to critical issues now. Look at mundane matters in comparison to nuclear threat. Despite all our knoledge in monetory science, we are unable to heed warnings and even come up with permanent solutions. Our casualness has hindered as to see the value of loss of human lives in Sri Lanka and else but only to see misconceived goals.

    What we now have is the avoidable cult of our self worship and righ now the world is lead by people who are nothing but individuals indulging in self worship and are busy fighting for position where we are going to worship them. Its just a fatal circus.

  48. 51 Tony Frank
    May 25, 2009 at 19:22

    I think North Korea seriously poses a global nuclear threat. Now, virtually all countries will be scrambling for nuclear materials in order to become a nuclear power and render the nuclear nonprolifiration treaty ineffective and nonexistent.
    The U.S, China, Russia, Germany, Japan, France should make it known to North korea, Iran, Pakistan and Israel that nuclear world war will lead to the beginning of the end of the human race.

    • May 25, 2009 at 23:44

      dear friend i hope you don’t mind me to ask you a simple question : you are having a home it’s yours do you want your neighbour tell you what to do and interfered in your private things ?!! if i were you i will be honest and say hell nooo it’s my home i will do whatever i want even you annoy or your neighbour thought you are risk they will tell come discuss it ith you or gesture to you then you will have right to answer them back and say : ok i got only one condition if you stop and destroy yours i will do the same that’s my answer to other without forget usa are supporting israel to build and produce nuclear .
      thank you to the bbc that i love so much we can discuss and talk then pass our comment to the world

  49. 53 Carlos
    May 25, 2009 at 19:23

    To be honest, I’m not scared, but I’m worried when countries like North Korea or Iran own nuclear weapons. The problem with it, is that they disturb the local military balance. On the other side, and this is specially valid for North Korea, I don’t think that they are very trustworthy. I am thinking what can be done, but in the case of North Korea, there is nothing we can do, not even the Chinese can control them. What I always wonder about is why a country like North Korea wants to spend horrible amounts of money on weapons of mass destruction instead of developing the country which is in dire need.

  50. 54 Uswege Mwaipyana
    May 25, 2009 at 19:28

    Nuclear test by North Korea is a threat to people in North Korea and will only serve to deepen North Korea’s isolation. Perhaps they think it will strengthen their diplomatic negotiating power in the world sphere but in actual sense it will do just the opposite.

  51. 55 Hao from China
    May 25, 2009 at 19:28

    Actually I am a little worried about the nuclear test of North Korea, and I don’t think that any people living in the countries surrounding North Korea would care nothing about that.
    North Korea should learn how to feed their people and improve their living standard first. Maybe China should apply more pressure on NK but I don’t think it can have any effect. In fact NK may regard China as another ‘potential threat’.

  52. 56 archibald in oregon
    May 25, 2009 at 20:24

    I am no more afraid of North Korea than I am of my own country and its ability to start a nuclear war. The whole question of good vs. evil, which is such a common tool in drumming up support pro or con is irrelevant in a nuclear weapons discussion. All nuclear weapons are an affront to all humanity. The US. has proven this by being the only “peaceful” nation to drop not one, but, two nuclear devices on a civilian population, supposedly to bring a rapid end to a war that was already won for all intents and purposes. This pseudo outrage is almost laughable, considering what hypocrites we are…………

  53. 57 Brian from Calif.
    May 25, 2009 at 20:56

    I agree with Hao. NK ruling class deeply distrusts other states. It is unrealistic to expect China or the U.S. or Russia or Japan to “fix” the situation. I think SK will be the most influential in the long run. The world just needs to keep the peace and wait. Condemnations are pointless, do little.

  54. 58 jHenosch Farissen
    May 25, 2009 at 22:00

    North Korea is a proxy of China, the same country we are wheeling and dealing with.

    No tradeunions, no environmental movements, no free press,

    false competition on a worldscale.

    We made the devil do it.

  55. 59 Wil Geier
    May 26, 2009 at 02:54

    The main issue I see is the plight of the NK people. They are starving while more money is blown on nuclear tests. If we impose sanctions it will only harm the people, not the actual government. Leaders will be able to say, “The UN has decided to starve you.” When they join the army, they can get fed.
    There are two main options I see to stop NK from flinging around nuclear weapons:
    -Impose all-out war, kill the leaders, and “free” the people as in Iraq. (Least desirable)
    -Fuel rebellion in the ranks, plant seeds of discord, and when the rebels gain a foothold in the population aid them (at their option) in taking out the major cities with less violence.
    The leaders have no fear of sanctions, because they only make the people hate the UN more (with proper spin). The leaders have probably foreseen rebellions, and have taken steps to quash them. It’s hard to get spies in, thanks to the strict regime. Most of the population is probably illiterate, so dropping leaflets would most likely fail. Feeding the populace with aid wouldn’t work very well either, because people would become inured to hunger (and NK government wouldn’t allow it). A coup would be difficult, because there is such deep distrust of westerners. Even if a coup succeeded, the lower-level authorities and army would probably have been trained to never give in, and there would be a bloodbath. In my opinion, a Chinese-aided effort to fund rebellions, literacy, and food would be the best option. If that would fail, getting Korean-looking people into the populace to teach them and influence them would be good. This would all have to be done with consent of UN leaders to minimize diplomatic problems (i.e. with China), but classified so the NKs wouldn’t know. We would have to promise that China would get free say in setting up a more equitable communist regime.

  56. 60 James Loudermilk
    May 26, 2009 at 07:29

    Ok, I’m not going to pretend for one second that I understand all the ins and outs of all this and it’s with that spirit I say I DON’T GET IT!!

    We invaded Iraq because we thought they were getting close to having a nuke and North Korea has them?! Not that I think we need to invade Korea or anything, I’m just still trying to figure out why we invaded Iraq and this just adds to the confusion for me.

    As far as sanctions go, what else can be done? I mean if China and Russia aren’t on board what more can be done? And even if they were and we did totally cut them off wouldn’t that push them to desperation and lead them to use the weapons they have?

    You know what I think; I think that we, the U.S. and Great Brittan, have stuck our nose in other countries business so often and for so long we have pissed off just about everybody in the entire world and it’s just a matter of time before we loose our edge, they all gang up on us and kick our Butts! As it is we are spread out all around the world trying to put out small fires and sucking up to nations where we can in an effort to postpone our butt whipping. Make no mistake that it’s just a postponement though; we will get our comeuppance sooner or later.

    I mean that’s just what it looks like from where I’m sitting. But like I said, I wouldn’t suggest for one second that I understand any of this.

    Am I worried about North Korea? Yes! Is there anything that can be done about it? Not anything that any government is going to do. Am I more concerned about the development in Korea then any place else in the world? Not really, I think all the countries we have pooped on over the several years are eventually going to turn on us and gang up on our butts and this is just a piece of that puzzle.

    But that’s just me.

  57. 61 Alby
    May 26, 2009 at 09:52

    I am more afraid of the US and the war mongers in other countries over reacting to N Korea.

    The only reason they feel they have to do this is because we are so vocal about being threatened by this tiny country! We isolate them, sanction them, and they create a little isolated world unto themselves, where their own people are manipulated, and there is no way for them to get any different information. This seems to be quite a common thing in countries these days. Including the US.

    I am more concerned about Israel tipping off the nuclear war by bombing Iran than I am N Korea.

    And, of course the 15,000 born again fundamentalist christians in the US military officers’ corps, with the access they have to so much hardware (and software). That is pretty scary too. They want to bring on armageddon….they are no different from those muslim fundamentalists Derrick in Trinidad mentions.

    They are all motivated by the same things…the only reason you don’t fear them , is the western press doesn’t tell you about t hem. The press only slams muslims….not fundamentalist American christians…part of the reason there is so much misunderstanding…and of course the need for one group to build up nuclear weapons against the others who have them….Israel’s got plenty of religious lunatics too!

    • May 27, 2009 at 11:12

      I agree with Alby. Israel and the US actions in the Middle East and elsewhere are real threats to world peace. Obama has made no difference to America’s thrust to world domination whatever the cost. North Korea has been pushed against the wall.

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