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May
09

On Air: What would you do with a Guantanamo prisoner?


He promised the prison would be closed by January 2010 but now President Obama faces complications to his plans as the senate refused the 80 million dollars needed to close the facility. The argument being that the American people do not want the prisoners to be transferred to United States soil.
So, what would you do with Guantanamo prisoners? Would you…
– Put each one of them on a civilian rather than a military trial?
– Deport them to their country of birth?
– Deport them to the country from which they were rendered?
– If not charged with anything, release them?
– Put them in another facility elsewhere?
– Or just keep Guantanamo open?

The Obama adminstration doesn’t seem to have the answer.The Pentagon number three official, Michele Flournoy, said the only way the USA can get other countries  to accept some of the 240 detainees  is by agreeing to bring some of them to the United States as well.

FBI Director,Robert Mueller , however, thinks that this might risk the detainees radicalising others and raising money for terrorist groups.What do you think should happen, what would you do with a Guantanamo prisoner?


139 Responses to “On Air: What would you do with a Guantanamo prisoner?”


  1. 1 Tom K in Mpls
    May 21, 2009 at 13:51

    “the American people do not want the prisoners to be transferred to United States soil”. That statement is empty political posturing. Party A doesn’t want party B to seem effective so they grab an excuse out of the air and run with it. The line has been working fairly well for wind farms, so why not try it here.

    As for the orders signed, in general they state that past (pre Bush one and two) rules were good enough and we will continue to abide by them. The one part that may not be clear is acknowledging a task force is needed for special cases. I have pointed this out recently myself. There are two valid cases. First, sometimes evidence is obtained illegally accidentally or intentionally that can save lives. The second is that sometimes there is only one possible source of the information and bring it out will compromise a valuable source and once again save lives. In these cases, saving lives is the most important issue, but you are left with a case that you can not prosecute. This can be the exception to the rule that the end does not justify the means. Proper over site needs to be maintained to see that this is not abused.

    • 2 Jonathan - United States
      May 24, 2009 at 21:55

      If my country professes to be the land of the free then it cannot resort to the same tactics that it accuses terrorists of perpetrating. Justice should be brought to those who have done wrong but it should be transparent. If we pride ourselves in such things as freedom of the press and fair trials, then why do we have Guantanamo?

      Torturing and abusing detainees is nothing more than a childish way of America flexing its muscles. I don’t find this to be much of a deterrent since our biggest terrorist enemies are willing to sacrifice their lives to destroy America. The actions in Guantanamo only helped to further legitimize the terrorist cause. I am glad Obama is making the right choice by getting rid of Guantanamo and exposing the Bush administration for their nasty little secret. If we are ever going to win the war on terror our actions must agree with our words.

  2. 3 John in Salem
    May 21, 2009 at 14:07

    I would like the world to see that we are not afraid of some political rejects walking around in pajamas, and that there is no valid justification for the withholding of basic human rights such as the presumption of innocence, habeus corpus or a speedy trial. Our Constitution is not as flimsy as Dick Cheney seems to think and it does not require being defended in the dark.
    We can scatter and shuffle them throughout the American prison system for the time being without having to tell anyone except their attorneys where they are. They would not be housed with anyone convicted of petty larceny or other minor crimes, and if one of them manages to recruit someone serving a life sentence for murder, who cares?

  3. May 21, 2009 at 14:17

    Oh, I I were Obama, I will have those who are not charged with anything go home ASAP, those charged with minor offences should be tried in civilian courts and then just keep the others in Guantanamo, and have the place remain open.
    Afterall I meant well, I made the plans to close the place but the Senate thought otherwise; therefore I am not responsible, for the Senators represent the people, therefore, I must listen to what they have to say.

  4. May 21, 2009 at 15:14

    Salaam… What would I do with a G-Prisoner ?! Simple, those guys should be tried by the American civil judiciary, and if they were proven to be innocents, then they should be freed, but if they were proven to be guilty, then they should be punished accordingly… When Saddam Hussein was ruling my Iraq, he used to imprison people for long periods of time without trial, or sometimes try them infront of oppressive military courts with already known verdicts and sentences… Is that a model that the American people and the American government would aspire to ??! With my love… yours forever, Lubna in Baghdad…

    • 6 Venessa
      May 21, 2009 at 15:42

      Well said Lubna!

    • 7 Dennis Junior
      May 21, 2009 at 22:37

      Well thought-out commentary, My dear friend…Lubna!!!

      ~Dennis Junior~

    • 8 Chetan
      May 22, 2009 at 03:46

      Well said. Hopefully our politicians wake up eventually. If someone is dangerous, then it will be easy for them to be tried in real courts and jailed for real reasons. If there is know evidence that an inmate did something, than they are innocent. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?

  5. 9 deryck/trinidad
    May 21, 2009 at 15:24

    Cases involving detainees who are being kept or tried on evidence obtained during torture and hearsay should be released immediately. Those cases where the investigators have cicumstantial as well as forensic evidence against persons should be tried in court as soon as possible.

  6. 10 deryck/trinidad
    May 21, 2009 at 15:28

    According to Lubna who seems to be an Iraqi Saddam Hussein detained people for long periods without a trial. Is that human rights? Are the Americans any different? You be honest and judge.

  7. May 21, 2009 at 15:30

    Now it seems both the US administration and the Guantanamo detainees are prisoners of a situation from which both need an escape. While the US administration is face with the judicial wrangling concerning the closure of Guantanamo, the detainees are faced with uncertain future, especially if they are deported to their countries of origins or if there is no country accepting to receive them, including their own.

    The US can strike a deal with Shavez who offered to receive Guantanamo detainees

    The prisoners should be transferred to their countries of birth and be given a fair trial under the auspices of international observers. Keeping them in Guantanamo will continue to raise controversies. After all, the Moroccans released from Guantanamo so far have been tried in Morocco. some were acquitted, others recaptured after their acquittal.

    Whatever, the Guantanamo prison should be kept as a memorial for the generations to come for them to make an assessment of the the imprisonment conditions there.

    • 12 Brian from Calif.
      May 21, 2009 at 20:26

      I agree, the detainees should be given a fair trial either in their country of origin (first choice) or the U.S. with both having international observers. The inconsistent application of justice is a terrorist recruiter’s dream.

      As for “The Tin Man, i.e., if I only had a heart” Dick Cheney: McCain wanted Gitmo closed too. Gonna change Cheney’s nickname to “The Scarecrow, i.e., if I only had a brain”. The only thing worse than an emperor is a dumb emperor. I voted for that Bozo once … how embarrassing.

  8. 13 Patti in Cape Coral, FL
    May 21, 2009 at 15:40

    I’m with Deryck, evidence or confessions obtained under torture are tainted and cannot be used. I think the rest need to be tried in court.

  9. 14 Roy, Washington DC
    May 21, 2009 at 15:48

    There is no excuse for using military tribunals for Guantanamo detainees. It’s a kangaroo court, and our reputation has suffered enough from the simple fact that the Guantanamo facility even exists. Send the detainees through the civil court process, along with all of the rights and protections that come with it, or release them immediately.

  10. 15 Tom
    May 21, 2009 at 15:50

    Welcome to the Presidency, Barack Obama! He’s discovering that many of the Bush administration policies he was so quick to criticize aren’t so easily disposed of. Reality is harder and solutions more complex once the responsibility sits squarely in your own lap.

    • 16 Chetan
      May 22, 2009 at 03:47

      If someone is dangerous, then it will be easy for them to be tried in real courts and jailed for real reasons. If there is know evidence that an inmate did something, than they are innocent. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?

      It isn’t rocket science.

  11. 17 Venessa
    May 21, 2009 at 15:52

    Pray tell why should other nations have to take detainees that the US obtained in their “fight against terrorism”?

    Let’s just forget for a minute that these people’s rights have been seriously violated and some have been detained that should have never been. I’d like to know what people opposed to putting them in US prisons think about some of the inmates currently housed. I suspect there are some far worse people in there, you know, serial killers, murders, child molesters and the list goes on. This is just a bunch of hot air and laughable. It angers me more that many people that have been calling for the closure of this horrible prison don’t want to have anything to do with actually handling this situation in the appropriate manner. Love double standards. I’m curious why people think it’s okay not to give these people a fair trial? I’m sure they would feel different if it was them in their shoes being held for contrived reasons.

    • 18 Tom K in Mpls
      May 21, 2009 at 19:04

      Vanessa, some are wanted in other counties, but Bush wanted them first. Now Obama gets to deal with it. And yes, most Americans want all the good and none of what comes with it.

  12. May 21, 2009 at 15:55

    Guantanamo has to be closed because the way the prisoners were treated, was degrading. But all the prisoners in Guantanamo are problems for the USA and not for the rest of the world. No European country should absorb a prisoner from Guantanamo. Only when these persons have a European citizenship or when it is prove that some of them are completely innocent there could be exceptions. Nevertheless, America arrested them so America should keep them!

  13. May 21, 2009 at 16:32

    Reports are that 1 in 7 released from GITMO rejoin the War Of Terror – proof enough for me that they’ve been turned into double agents and are now provocateurs or patsies, sent out on black-ops missions be CIA handlers – some will be turned again – some will take the fall again as patsies.

    As for the new so-called NY terrorist plot – that’s got CIA/FBI False-Flag written all over it. Most likely they’re a gang of patsies with rich legends, being tracked by dedicated agents, who got busted when a mole blew an assignment before the operation could be executed.

    Get a clue folks, This is the way the Global War Of Terror is being run. The Global War Of Terror is the biggest psy-op of all time.

  14. 21 Patti in Cape Coral, FL
    May 21, 2009 at 16:37

    I don’t quite understand why we don’t want the detainees in the US. If they are found innocent in court, they need to be freed. If they are found guilty, they stay in jail. Either way, it works. I’m just worried about the prisoners that were tortured. None of the evidence obtained under torture should be used, so even if they are guilty, the evidence is tainted and they would have to be let go.. and if they were innocent to begin with, I would think they would be prime targets for recruitment, considering the way they were treated.

  15. 22 Peter Sc
    May 21, 2009 at 16:39

    US should close down Guantanamo Bay, get out and return the place to Cuba. To go back to moral values Britain and US should void all unequal treaties made by force since their imperialistic days. Detainees should be transferred to Illinoi. Obama home base.

  16. May 21, 2009 at 16:39

    The prisoners should be transferred to their countries of birth and be given a fair trial under the auspices of international observers. Keeping them in Guantanamo will continue to raise controversies.

    Whatever, the Guantanamo prison, when it is evicted from its detainees, should be kept as a memorial for the generations to come for them to make an assessment of the the imprisonment conditions there. It should remain a symbol of cross-border terrorism , cross-border imprisonment and cross-border (mis)carriage of justice.

  17. 24 Bert
    May 21, 2009 at 16:46

    To me, these guys are prisoners of war. Therefore, if the prison has to close, then SHIP THEM BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM, with a one-way ticket. Just like prisoners of any other war. And make darned sure you don’t let them back within our borders.

    President Obama is not a dictator. I’m very glad to see that the system works as it was designed to work. Happy as I am that he was elected, I don’t agree with all of his positions, and I’m am gratified to see that there are regulatory mechanisms to curb his appetite for overly risky change.

  18. May 21, 2009 at 17:13

    Eileen who usually posts on our blog from Virginia is on holiday in Arizona! So she called WHYS and gave this message to Claudia:

    The people who were imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay, have been cynically excluded from the American justice system. If they weren’t terrorists when they went in, they will be when they come out. The Bush administration made a bad situation worse. The prisoners who are released deserve compensation for years of punishment. If they receive american justice with compensation, they might realise America’s virtue.

  19. 26 Anthony
    May 21, 2009 at 17:18

    We should follow the court system of what ever country they origionated from, because the U.S. system is garbage abd takes too darn long.

    OR

    Let them go if they promise not to try to kill any Americans. We will of course have to make sure they aren’t crossing their fingers.

    -Anthony, LA, CA

  20. 27 Rashid Patch
    May 21, 2009 at 17:38

    They absolutely should be tried in the normal U.S. judiciary.

    The reason this has not been done is that under normal legal procedures, they would almost certainly have to be immediately released.

    There has been no attempt or even pretense to bring indictments against these men. In the circumstances of their capture, no effort was made to collect and record evidence of any crime. They were detained by the military and incarcerated without trial, and held at the whim of the Commander in Chief; and the Bush administration made it clear that habeus corpus rights would not be afforded them. Any evidence against of them has been ineradicably tainted by torture, illegal incarceration, and grossly unconstitutional acts by the government. They cannot possibly be successfully prosecuted or convicted

    In justice, they should be released immediately. However, to release them would very gravely embarrass the U.S. government, and could even open the way for claims of malicious prosecution. Showing to the world that the Bush / neo-Con “War on Terror” was, from it’s inception, scofflaw in theory, grossly illegal in practice, intrinsically inimical to human rights, and on top of all that, profoundly ineffective, would outrage the right-wing to the point of rabid frenzy, even insurrection.

    To be charitable to Obama, I must hope that it is apprehension of violent right-wing reaction is preventing him from allowing justice to proceed, and returning the U.S. to the rule of law. However, I believe that he is gravely mistaken in taking this course. The actions of the Bush administration and their right-wing supporters have been criminal far past the point of treason. These dogs must be put down; if they are provoked to bite, the sooner will be their end, and the republic will be the better for it.

  21. 28 Vijay
    May 21, 2009 at 17:56

    There should be QUICK summary trials with either innocent or guiltyverdicts ,If innocent return them to their country of origin with a few dollars for restarting their lives,If guilty, imprison them or execute them,but there should not be further delays or lengthy public trials, because”JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED”.

  22. 29 Jessica in NYC
    May 21, 2009 at 18:02

    After they are tried and if they are found guilty, then politicians and the Executive Director of The Two Rivers Detention Center have said they will gladly take 100 prisoners. That it would bring jobs to their community in Hardin, Montana.

    Yesterday in in an news interview Mr. Smith, the executive director was asked if there was any fear in the community, that they would be a target for Al Qaeda? Mr. Smith replied, “I think a little bit. But this has been empty for years years and we looked at bringing in sex offenders and I’ve had people say I’d rather have terrorists than sex offenders.”

  23. 30 Edwin Clavijo
    May 21, 2009 at 18:06

    The prisoners are going to be kept in a maximum security facility in the united states… How is that having “Terrorist” walking around in our neighborhoods? This is purely as sacrificial lamb for the GOP. The Dems need to stick together and get this logical/morally correct step over with. This is a huge waste of resources in both the capital and media. GET IT DONE WITH ALREADY!!!!

    -Edwin

  24. 31 margot in oregon
    May 21, 2009 at 18:06

    I agree that there needs to be a well thought out plan in place before Guantanamo prisoners are brought to the US. We do need to do this asap though, not let it continue to drag on in the current limbo. The prisoners should be held on American ground – we were the ones who decided to detain these people, they are our responsibility. When not on American soil, there are questions about how they are to be dealt with; if in country they will have to be dealt with using our legal system, whether civilian or military.
    Maybe we might want to relocate them to the backyards of the people who started this process, namely that of George Bush, Cheney, etc.

  25. 32 Matt in Oregon
    May 21, 2009 at 18:12

    @ Abdelilah, Bert, etc.

    1. THEIR COUNTRIES OF BIRTH DO NOT WANT THEM BACK! The Europeans are so quick to criticize but they either won’t take any prisoners or just one.

    2. The military tribunals are NOT kangaroo courts. In the first military tribunal when UBL’s driver was tried the military jurists not only threw out some of the most serious chargers against him but also gave a lesser penalty than the prosecution asked for.

    3. The men who left this facility have rejoined the fight. They cannot be let go.

    4. Please ask yourself: if Gitmo never existed would extremists be any less motivated to blow themselves up? If Gitmo did not exist would there be peace in Iraq or Afghanistan?

    The answer is NO.

    No matter how much people gripe about how Gitmo has harmed the US’s reputation its existence does not change the War on Terror.

    There are people who hate the US and Europe and the existence of a prison in Cuba does not change the amount of people who hate the “west” or how much they are willing to do to fight the “west!”

    • 33 Chetan in Seattle
      May 22, 2009 at 03:52

      If someone is dangerous, then it will be easy for them to be tried in real courts and jailed for real reasons. If there is know evidence that an inmate did something, than they are innocent. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?

      We cannot become the terrorists while trying to defend our selves from them.

      Also, the only people who say that torture worked were the ones who might face a law suit if they don’t say so. Torturing someone to get information doesn’t work. Countless studies as well as John McCain prove that this is true.

  26. 34 Otis
    May 21, 2009 at 18:14

    I’m with Benjamin Franklin on this one: “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

    When we abandon American ideals as codified in the Constitution for the sake of security, expedience, convenience, or vengeance, we cease to be American. In the case of Guantanamo, the Patriot Act, the Bush administration’s wiretapping, etc., we have swallowed the disingenuous and overly-simplistic claim that “they hate us for our freedom” and responded with a terrible irony by abandoning our freedom, effectively burning our village in order to save it.

    Restore habeas corpus. Try them or free them. Anything less is un-American.

  27. May 21, 2009 at 18:17

    It’s time to stop blaming this whole thing on Republicans. The Senate made it very clear that this opion is held bipartisanly (90-6 I believe). How can you blame this on the right when the senate is lead 59-41 by democrats.

    These exteme librals are just mad that most of America dissagrees with them and are now trying to change the majority of minds by force. If you want to close Guantanamo then fine, thats your opinion but dont force you minority view on the masses.

    Anthony
    Reno, NV

  28. May 21, 2009 at 18:19

    The prisoners will first have to be arrested legally, so the question of the legality of their arrest will have to be answered first. If they really were prisoners of war, they’d need to be detained and processed as such.

    I don’t know why Dick Cheney still has something to say about it all, if not to maintain the shroud over the activities of his administration.

  29. 37 chidi (from Minneapolis, US)
    May 21, 2009 at 18:21

    My question to your speakers is. Has anyone seen the tv show Lockup on msnbc hear in the US. I don’t think that a terrorist can influence a prison filled with neo nazi’s , crips and blood gang members as well as hispanic ms13 gangsters. There is no way on earth that these gangsters would tolerate terrorists! In fact I think they would probably unite in prison against the terrorists!!!

  30. 38 Craig
    May 21, 2009 at 18:21

    Each prisoner must be processed. If found guilty of crimes against America then we must move them to US prisons, if found innocent, they must be freed.

    As an alternative, we could build a facility in Antarctica, on international land, and place them there.

  31. 39 Tom D Ford
    May 21, 2009 at 18:27

    I think that the US ought to use Eminent Domain to take land from the center of Bushs’ ranch and Cheneys’ ranch in Texas and build prisons in both of those places and send those prisoners there. After all, they bought those people and they ought to take care of the problems.

  32. 40 Venessa
    May 21, 2009 at 18:28

    Your caller Robert must be one of the people living in fear based on the propaganda spewed by the Bush administration for the last 8 years. I’d like to know if he would be okay being shackled and jailed for a long period of time for contrived reasons?

    Um, and everyone was not arrested in Afghanistan nor is there any acceptable justification for the torcher or lack of trial these people recieved, terrorist or not! Thanks for supporting the breeding of terrorism in this country by agreeing with the deplorable torcher approved by our government.

    Oh the tangled webs we weave…

  33. 41 John LaGrua/New York
    May 21, 2009 at 18:28

    Lincoln warned that the greatest danger to our country would come from within and we have seen during the Bush years a frightening endangerment of our freedoms.Fotunately, the founding fathers wisely enshrined our liberty in the the Constitution and it’s Preamble..One shudders at the thought that under that fool Bush and his evil partner Cheney all could have swept away.Gitmo is evidence a warped concept of defense and should be closed as a terrible blight on our honor and sense of decency as well as our dedication to the rule of law.We should demonstrate that we are confident enough in our system for which so many Americans have sacrificed life and fortune to try any one suspected of acts of harm toward our country in a civil court to prove guilt or innocence..We could regain the worlds respect by punishing those who are found guily, openly and fairly, and freeing those who are innocent .Where egregious mis-carriage of justice is shown ,compensation should be made.The President should go to the people to overcome the abstructionist corrupt and impotent Congress..

  34. 42 Mukul, Parsippany NJ
    May 21, 2009 at 18:29

    This is a political diversion to take attention away from pressing economic and social issues.
    There or here, does it really matter? These prisoners are not going to be released anyway, no country would take them, though they would continue to make noise about human rights.

  35. 43 Trasco Brabus
    May 21, 2009 at 18:33

    The idea that in order to prevent another 911 we must maintain Gitmo is an argument that leads one inevitably, if the logic is followed, to that conclusion that those in America, or in any location of another 911, who are even suspected, and not charged, ought to also be collected. The moderator must watch his logic. Secondly, the sharia is nothing adhered to, it is the framework of actions in Islam. Islam is adhered to, and when it is, so is the Shari’a. The latter does not stand distinct from Islam, and the latter does *not* equal domination of the world, as one of the ignortant speakers insists.

  36. 44 Bruno
    May 21, 2009 at 18:33

    The majority opinion in the US unfortunately looks very much like it has adopted the principles that were common in the days of absolute monarchy: you can throw anyone in jail if you believe he may be a threat to you – no justification to give, no proof to be given, length of detention indefinite, and anyone who questions the system is obviously a fool

  37. 45 David
    May 21, 2009 at 18:33

    The prisoners must be tried or released. I’m extremely frustrated that the guests supporting indefinite detention continue to deny that detainees have rights. No person is free until we all enjoy equal protection under the law. There is more to fear from government abuse of power than from any detainee.

  38. 46 Tom D Ford
    May 21, 2009 at 18:34

    This is mostly just fear-mongering by Conservative Republicans, because their followers are so easily fooled and manipulated when they are afraid. They know very well and consistently use the techniques of Goebbels against their followers.

    The US prison system is actually well equipped to handle any problem prisoners and the people of the US ought to trust their prisons to get the job done.

  39. 47 A. E. Johnson
    May 21, 2009 at 18:36

    It is not legal, moral, or defensible to hold innocent people in detention simply because we Americans are afraid. We need to get some courage, charge those for whom we hve evidence, try them on American soil, and imprison them in America if they are convicted. The others should be released with apologies and some compensation to return home. Anything else is ignoble, cowardly behavior.

  40. 48 eddie
    May 21, 2009 at 18:37

    Let them all go! They were never charged with any crime.

  41. May 21, 2009 at 18:37

    I disagree to Felix in Berlin. Certainly, the prime responsability lies with the US Goverment. However, countries interested in fighting terrorism cannot simply steal themselves away, including Germany. If they did, it would be hypocritical.

  42. 50 Marty Outlaw
    May 21, 2009 at 18:38

    Guantanamo MUST be closed to end a terrible chapter and show the world that America is trying to correct what happened during the Bush/Cheney years. We can’t continue to hold people without a trial. If that’s the case, we stand with the dictators of this world and totally disregard the bases for our constitution. If they are found guilty and need to serve additional time, why can’t they be put in military prisons with very stict monitoring to prevent further abuse?

  43. 51 Marty Outlaw
    May 21, 2009 at 18:39

    bases=basis

  44. 52 Kebba Mbye
    May 21, 2009 at 18:40

    I listened to the Debate on Jihad concerning the Ditanees. There is no Jihad going on in Islam hence there is no Holy war declared.

    The problem is Political concerning the Middle East and Indian subcontinent. Kasmir wants independence equally like Palistine.

    So Islam should not be used or adulterated.

    Thanks

  45. 53 Tom D Ford
    May 21, 2009 at 18:40

    “What would you do with a Guantanamo prisoner?”

    Yes, what would you do with those Terrorist Christian Uighurs? How do we address the problem of Terrorist Christians? Remember that Bush/Cheney said that they are the worst of the worst, or was that just another one of the many Bush/Cheney lies?

  46. 54 Kebba Mbye
    May 21, 2009 at 18:41

    Thanks for the Air Time

  47. 55 FreedomFighter1000
    May 21, 2009 at 18:45

    When are people going to realize you cannot apply standard criminal practices and procedures to this type of conflict. We would still be processing people captured by American Armed Forces from World War II if this were the case. The Terrorist have become expert at exploiting this perceived weakness in a Democratic country. What about alleged Terrorist captured by the Iraq military ? What are other countries in the middle east doing with alleged Terrorists ? Amazing how quiet people are about Isreal disposition of alleged Terrorist. Administrative detention ? Group punishment. Armed conflicts are hell and should be avoided at all costs. The simple truth, which I believe most Americans hold, is that we are not willing to take the risk. For once America should stand up to the world like Isreal. If other countris are not willing to take these people then they have no say in the matter. End of this dcussion. I am, have always been, and will always reamin an Independent Voter. It saddens me that we have such weak people in our high elected offices. I voted for Obama and continue to strongly support him although I strongly disagree with him on this issue. It looks like I may need to run for President if anything is to be correctly done.

  48. 56 Venessa
    May 21, 2009 at 18:45

    yeah, they might be WW terrorists but the US brought this on themselves by deciding to put them in prison without appropriate evidence. I call BS! i’m sick to my stomach that our government tried to get around these people’s rights by making sure the weren’t on US soil. it amazes me how many people think this is okay. supporting such inequitable rights for a subset of people is beyond my comprehension.

  49. May 21, 2009 at 18:45

    Wasn’t there a prison in America that was going to shut down and offered to take the prisoners?

    The whole argument against allowing these men to be imprisoned in the US is absurd. Just because Charles Manson is in a California jail does not equate to him being in our streets. Its an absurd argument

    Also Americans (I am one) on your show tend to ignore the other peoples arguments. They just wait to talk without listening.

  50. 58 Frith
    May 21, 2009 at 18:45

    I think the best solution is to designate them P.O.W. This would put them under the Geneva convention and we could keep them like any P.O.W. until the war is over. It’s that easy, no special treatment, treat them like any prisoner of war.

  51. 59 MIGUEL (California)
    May 21, 2009 at 18:46

    How is the US and nations involved to repay the people that were wrongfully accused.

  52. 60 Enagha, Dallas
    May 21, 2009 at 18:46

    I am constantly disgusted by the struggle over G’tmo Bay prisoners. I believe that the so called rhetoric on human rights and “DUE PROCESS” seems to me a mere cliche used by politicians when it suits their purpose. These prisoners spend time there without being tried for years andare finally cleared of all charges.

    George Bush created this mess and the US has to deal with the consequences of it. Obama should be supported in his efforts at justice.

  53. 61 Ezee
    May 21, 2009 at 18:47

    I was listening for a while and I am not sure why BBC is giving air to such Islamophobes as Robert Spencer, who basically brand all muslims as promoting violence and uses the word Sharia and Jihad to stoke up fear. The things that he and Daniel Pipes are saying are very similar to what was being said about the Jewish people in pre WWII europe and it makes me very scared. Muslim bashing is a big business in the United states.

  54. 62 Mary Beth
    May 21, 2009 at 18:47

    Guantanamo has become synonymous with torture, illegal capture and detainment, and a total breakdown of judicial procedure. It needs to be closed. That is the only way for us to possibly hope to improve our relations with the rest of the world, both Islamic and Western, and consequently improve our own security as a nation. The current detainees need to be tried, and if convicted, imprisoned in U.S. prisons. President Obama has been given an almost impossible task repairing the damage done by the previous administration, but he was elected because the majority of the U.S. electorate believed he was best able to perform that task. Let him do his job.

    • 63 All support to Obama now!
      May 21, 2009 at 19:53

      Yes Mary! Obama need all support now!The people woted for human rights and a better world!

  55. 64 Hafiz
    May 21, 2009 at 18:48

    That Robert guy needs to get off his Sharia horse. They are millions of Muslims who belief in Sharia, and 99.9999% have nothing against Americans. Those who do are reacting to having their countries occupied, having their children and families blown up indiscriminately by American bombs. When they kill innocent Americans, it’s called terrorism. When America blows up innocents, it’s called collateral damage.

  56. May 21, 2009 at 18:52

    They hate us for our values? You mean the one where we torture people and put them in prison without trails? Or maybe our false sense of freedom. That new guy is ignorant to history AND the motives of Middle Eastern people.

  57. 66 Venessa
    May 21, 2009 at 18:52

    “What’s the difference he’s going to be incarcerated.”

    wow, another advocate for torcher. nice.

  58. 67 L. Cohen
    May 21, 2009 at 18:52

    One of your guests came with a list of wars which he said were fought by the Bush administration. I couldn’t catch all of the wars but one country he mentioned was Somalia. Wat war was waged by President Bush in Somalia?

    • 68 Tom K in Mpls
      May 21, 2009 at 19:18

      L., watch the movie Blackhawk Down. They mix up the order of some events, but those that were there, that chose to comment, say the movie was quite accurate.

    • May 21, 2009 at 19:43

      We have 3 choices:

      Kill them.

      Put them on trial, if convicted execute them as war criminals if exonerated release them.

      Release them.

      A fourth option is not feasible hold them in prison for the rest of their lives. That violates everything the United States stands for.

      Question: Why would people who want to be martyrs allow themselves to be captured alive? Do you suppose when they consider all options they will defer to the morons willing to be suicide bombers?

  59. May 21, 2009 at 18:53

    HA! Commenting about the logical argument of a person who claimed “They hate us for our values”!

  60. 71 Amy
    May 21, 2009 at 18:55

    oh gosh… guys we don’t treat people that way because it’s wrong. we’re trying to be better people. good people. how do we set an example if we’re beating up on people.

    the rest is decoration, really.

  61. 72 rachel
    May 21, 2009 at 18:55

    AHHH! what is so hard about not talking over each other. I am so annoyed with your participators today.

  62. May 21, 2009 at 18:56

    That guy is full of logical fallacies!

  63. May 21, 2009 at 18:57

    A military person’s perspective of a military prison is obviously going to be bias. He did not work there he got a tour which is obviously going to be the best view possible.

  64. 75 Rose Goddesman
    May 21, 2009 at 18:58

    Please don’t let that American take over the conversation. He is not a good guest. He is a bully.

  65. 76 Bruno
    May 21, 2009 at 18:59

    Your republican guest is being very rude here. He just makes his point by speaking loud and preventing othets from responding… A bit convenient..

  66. 77 kyle in oregon
    May 21, 2009 at 19:00

    These blowhard Republican war-mongers have completely tarnished America’s image. Their blatant lack of understanding and prejudice toward Islam is simply disgusting to me.

    Close Guantanamo and give the detainees a fair trial.

    • 78 Paul
      May 22, 2009 at 22:06

      Oooohhhh… they tarnished America’s image! Yes, the Muslims loved us before Bush came into office. That’s why they tried to blow up the world trade center in 1993, under Clinton. And what about the Marines in Beiruit? Where are you getting your “facts?”

  67. 79 pdxmike
    May 21, 2009 at 19:05

    U.S. has lost the war on terror. I say that, because Cheney and the Congress are obviously trumpeting the danger of these PRISONERS. Too dangerous for prison? America, the “land of the brave”… “home of the free?”

  68. 81 Loraine
    May 21, 2009 at 19:14

    Give them each a fair trial if they are innocent release them, if guilty let them serve a sentence taking into account the time they have already served. They are after all human beings stop treating them like some sub species.

  69. May 21, 2009 at 19:14

    This whole situation is horrible. Simply because the war was waged on incorrect intelligence by the Bush adminitration. Everything that was done by the US during the Bush admin was wrong and lies. I never trusted and believed anything that the US govt said while under Bush. Our legal system treats African American horrible and convict all African Americans off the prejudice of their color. For all people abroad, you wouldn’t believe how African Americans are treated in the US.
    Now, I ask this, if a govt. can treat their very own US citizens of a different race unhumanly, how do you think a foreignor will be treated? Only God himself will be able to clean this up. I’ve totally stopped stressing from this situation-because I never believed so-called forienor torrorist added out alone. They had help by a much bigger power structure and that power no who they are.
    THE BUSH ADMINITRATION

  70. 83 ARTHUR NJUGUNA
    May 21, 2009 at 19:18

    Terror squads have been dealt with in Britain, Russia, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Spain. What is so difficult when it comes to the Guatanamo cases?
    As war criminals it is not clear why they are still in though one can speculate that it could be because there is still war going on in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Could this be the reason?

  71. 84 Mark Woodward
    May 21, 2009 at 19:21

    Long time listener, first time making a comment.

    I very often do not agree with many of the points made, and positions taken, by both members of the panel and those calling and writing in. I do however value hearing these opinions and am always in awe of the job the presenters do in keeping spirited and focused discussion going.

    I found myself completely aghast at the behavior of the “Republican Radio Pundit” you allowed on the radio today. Regrettably, I missed his name, because the next time I hear it I will change the channel immediately. His pompous proclamations, arrogance, and absolute inability to engage another in meaningful conversation is the hallmark of shock radio, not the BBC. Please think twice about ever giving that person access to your show again.

    • May 24, 2009 at 02:16

      Good one Mark – I didnt hear the show but I know what you mean,I know where you are coming from.
      You expect better things from the BBC, and this is the only way to get it.
      Keep up the pressure.

  72. 86 Janis
    May 21, 2009 at 19:23

    Thesis: Lack of evidences do not provide to sentence persons, but persons are too dangerous to free them.
    Opinion: I can agree only with the first part of the thesis. The second part of the thesis is because of the fears, although sufficiently well-founded fears (it happens after traumatic experience).
    At first try to cope with the fears and then discharge those dangerous persons. Resources saved from prison closure than could be assigned to security and intelligent services that may work to gather necessary evidences to sentence those persons.
    Even dangerous persons are not monsters. They shall act as an ordinary liberated prisoners: as recidivists, as criminals or as rehabilitated persons.
    Each person has a certain nationality. Let their countries accept them or let persons to choose their living places.

  73. 87 Mathew
    May 21, 2009 at 19:44

    Try them in Islamic courts? You are kidding! Those imams will set them free saying they are “innocent brothers of Islam.” For a just trial, these terrorists should be tried in the US. I do not care where they are kept – Gitmo or any other prisons; one thing is needful; they must be kept shut up, so that the rest of the world can live in safety.

  74. 88 Mute
    May 21, 2009 at 19:58

    I think there is no problem with the prisoners being represented by military lawyers. The military lady lawyer was very objective when she represented the freed British detainee.

  75. May 21, 2009 at 20:06

    It was the idea of the Republicans and Democrats who govern America to bring the prisoners to Guantanamo, it is the responsibility of the governing elite to transfer them to America to face trial.I say this as a US Citizen born and raised in America.

  76. 90 All support to Obama now!
    May 21, 2009 at 20:12

    Obama has truly given the hole world new hope!

  77. 91 Bert
    May 21, 2009 at 20:48

    I agree with Frith: designate them as POWs, and then treat them accordingly.

    On the other hamd, I don’t understand those who advocate to “try and then release them.” “Release” where? Or do you mean, “deport them to their country of origin?” Or, in a less pejorative tone, “repatriate them.”

    If they are treated as POWs, their home governments would be responsible to deal with them. As long as this has been dragged out, I think we should go this repatriation route.

  78. 92 Sheldon
    May 21, 2009 at 20:49

    I believe that the Guantanamo issue is one that will have many and varied debates by people around the world. Those haveing their own openion as to what is the right or wrong action will maintain their belief. However, if you hold the responsibility of detaining people and keeping them under your control because of previous action/s towards you, it remains your responsibility to keep them until they satisy the criteria to leave. If this means that these people should be taken to the country in question and be distributed within their prison walls then, let it be. If doing this will winn you the frienship or a better relationship with another cuntry then go for it.

  79. 93 Todd
    May 21, 2009 at 20:52

    One simple question for which I have never been given a convincing answer: Exactly what gives these detainees a right to a trial in American civilian courts? At best, they are POWs and at worst, unlawful enemy combatants- neither of which are entitled to trials under US criminal or civil law.

    Furthermore, most of these individuals were picked up on the battlefields of Afghanistan and never set foot on US soil. Therefore, how can they be charged with a crime under the US penal system?

    Personally, I would like to see them held at Guantanamo until the war is over, at which point they can be returned to their countries of origin, as is normally done with POWs.

    • 94 Sheldon
      May 22, 2009 at 14:09

      How can we be sure that when these prisoners are released after the war is over- no one really know when that will be, and is returned to their country will not continue in the same path that caused them to be in prison? What if they become worst?

      If prisoners at Gitmo are treated badly by soldiers it will foster hatered in their hearts not only for the soldiers but also for America. This is not good for the countr because it will only cause them to hate America more.

      Why not treat them well, let them see what the country is trying to achieve so that they can have a good outlook on the country to get them to change their minds from the initial intention of their hearts.

  80. 95 Paul
    May 21, 2009 at 20:59

    The people in Gitmo are there for a reason — they were captured in a war zone, and were likley making war, and that makes them prisoners of war. The war continues today. I know of no war in which POWs were returned to their countries while the war was stil being waged.

    Those whose innocence is obvious have already been set free. Thise who are still there either are or aren’t enemy combatants. A trial should be had, and they should face the results just like anyone else. If they’re innocent, put them on a plane and send them back to where they were captured. They can take it from there. People have begun to talk about these prisoners like they’re lilly-white, pristine boy scouts. They also forget who started this particular war, and they call American interrogation tactics “torture” though it’s miles away from dragging corpses through streets, and beheadings. I disagree with that claim, and I challenge anyone to tell me how to get useful information from someone who hates you with anything but coercive methods.

    As for Gitmo, it’s doing its job well. There’s no reason to close it.

  81. 96 Steve
    May 21, 2009 at 21:34

    The Gitmo detainees are just more names on the long list of “misunderstanders of Islam.” It`s far too easy to misunderstand Islam, afterall, its one and only prophet misunderstood his own “religion” to the point where he mistakenly believed his god justified murder, slaughter, theft , misogyny, warfare and conquest , not much of a listener was ol Mohammad.
    The truth is all documented in Islam`s own scriptures, the Qur`an, ahadiths and the sira, but best avoided if you don`t want your own personal truth shattered. Oh what a lovely war.

  82. 97 Brian from Calif.
    May 21, 2009 at 21:52

    Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. ~ Abraham Lincoln

  83. 98 eddie
    May 21, 2009 at 21:56

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    They were never charged with any crime. Let them all go!

  84. 99 Brian from Calif.
    May 21, 2009 at 22:02

    Cheney’s manipulation of the fear of simple minded folks is truly cynical. Is this the last desperate hope for his brand of republicanism? Boogey man us back to voting GOP? How sad.

  85. 100 Kelly, from Chicago, IL, USA
    May 21, 2009 at 22:35

    I don’t understand why everyone’s being so scared about these guys. I don’t think it says very much about the US if everyone thinks all our in-country solutions are “not secure enough.” I’m not even sure anyone knows what that means.

  86. 101 markie
    May 22, 2009 at 03:51

    9-11 should have never happened. bush, rice, ashcroft and cheney have been back pedaling ever since it occurence to “make up’ for their incompetence. they are scum of the earth. not worth of repute.

  87. 102 Wahine
    May 22, 2009 at 04:04

    Obama made many promises to obtain the presidency – but the world can see he is way above his paygrade. He was not educated enough in world politics, or even domestic ones, to be in the position he is but I think most americans are realising that hope and change are not that easy. Obama never spent long enough in the muslim world to actually understand the threat they represent – anyone who thinks they can rationally debate with Islamic fundamentalists like Iran should really not be in a position of power. He is a little boy in a big mans world and he can do great damage to the freedom in the west.

  88. 103 SorryCitizen
    May 22, 2009 at 04:41

    Well,we have seen that a lot of prisoners in Guantanamo haven’t been convicted of anything yet.So, a thorough investigation should be carried out and based on it,a special tribunal should be set up to look after the cases.

  89. 104 janet
    May 22, 2009 at 05:03

    The government states there are 248 inmates remaining, in which 130 Al Qaeda, 169 were in terrorist training camps, 84 fought for the Taliban, 88 were at Tora Bora, 71 were named on hard drives or physical lists of Al Qaeda, 64 were with the Mujahideen, and 28 were Osama Bin Laden’s security detail. The innocent are have already been sent home. They need to be tried in military court, they should not be tried in civil court. Then they can let them serve their time in GITMO and count some time served. Living near Leavenworth Kansas, we don’t want them here. And by all means, remember 9-11.

  90. 105 janet
    May 22, 2009 at 05:04

    Roberto, I say this and I am an American with ancestors that fought in the American Revolutionary War!

  91. May 22, 2009 at 05:32

    I would send the detainees back to where they came and forgive them.

  92. 108 pdxmike
    May 22, 2009 at 06:19

    One more thing… after we close Guantanamo we should give the land back to Cuba, and leave!

  93. 109 Roberto
    May 22, 2009 at 10:25

    RE “” President Obama has been given an almost impossible task repairing the damage done by the previous administration, but he was elected because the majority of the U.S. electorate believed he was best able to perform that task. “”
    —————————————————————————————————

    ————— Yet the same “electorate” put the previous administration in place that you complain of.

    As I predicted, all these pie in the sky promises designed to garner popular vote such as the closing of Gitmo would prove problematic. Precious few of the namby idealists or their neighbors would want to live with a detainee and they can’t come up with a credible plan to deal with them.

    Best and most cost effective solution is to keep Gitmo open and streamline the military trials that have proven to be adequate. There can never be a perfect solution for people so schizophrenic as to elect completely disparate and opposing administrations back to back.

  94. 110 Kimani (Kenya)
    May 22, 2009 at 10:58

    Obama has a major dilemma on his hands.

    He needs to dismantle monuments to Bushean incompetence (eg. Guantanamo), but he cannot do that as quickly as he wants. In the Guantanamo case I think he will not succeed.

    ….and I don’t think he wanted to succeed….

    As a smart politician Obama, cleverly sold congress a Red Herring (which they obviously swallowed)…. his real intention, I think, was to tell the world and liberal Americans that he is indeed a brave and radical reformer. This is an important counter-balance to his perceived towing of the Neo-conservative war-line.

    • May 24, 2009 at 01:39

      Well I hope you are right Kimani – so far he,s on record as being VERY MUCH the neocon front man. Already people are figuring him out and his rating is dropping and set to go down further – its a continuation of the old policies but with a fresh face.
      This man has gone back on his word to the American public to such a degree that it insults their intelligence and he is going to pay for this.

  95. May 22, 2009 at 13:07

    Without a doubt if i were the President i would do as the Pres has done because i would be the President. Now when asked what i believe personally what might work are fair trials Not kangaroo military tribunals but fair courtroom, in your face, TRANSPARENT legal bringing of charges. These should also be televised because as Pres Obama has said..Transparency is the world of the day

    I am Cuban born, and raised yes have been an exile of my own choice for more than 30 yrs yet i have been back to my country at least once a year for 25 yrs and just recently returned since the travel ban has been lifted..
    . However, because my own family has fought both for Cuba and Africa during wars for freedom liberty and self determination i know from losing many family members, and friends i grew up with over the span of my lifetime how important it is that one fight for thier countries sovereignty.
    i do not believe that all of the alledged men in custody are combatants i believe that the racist US gov has railroaded many if not all into Guantanmo so as to justify the invasion into that oil rich country.

    Last Obama, has waffled under pressure from those who have an interest in keeping humans out of vision so that the US can continue abuse and perhas even murder of many.
    On the otherside, what Obama will never understand is that Islam is here to stay, and that for every abuse by the US militasr Ie (rapes of girls in iran, murders of civilians etc will only call for more Jihad.

    It is time for Barak Hussein Obama to learn his own story and that he read the book given to him by Hugo Chavez..i have.

    Skntruth2power

  96. 113 Bill, PA
    May 22, 2009 at 13:30

    9-11 deaths, less than 3 thousand.
    Iraqi deaths: American about 4 thousand; Iraqi about 1000 thousand.
    Funds spent (wasted) in the name of security Trillions of dollars.
    Innocents killed EVERY year on American highways; 22 thousand. Killed by those breaking the law. These innocent motorists were just in the wrong place when a speeder, drunk or sleeping driver killed them.
    Total killed in traffic accidents EVERY year in US; 44 thousand.
    American motorists lives saved by Cheney/Bush: 0
    Lives to be saved by current policy: 0
    And we are talking about 250 or so alleged killers? Why in the US we have 2 million prisoners in our state and federal prisons many actual convicted killers and we are not agonizing about them being in the United States.

  97. 115 Jennifer
    May 22, 2009 at 13:55

    Re: So, what would you do with Guantanamo prisoners? Would you…

    Keep Guantanamo open!

    • 116 Bill, PA
      May 22, 2009 at 17:02

      To keep someone in prison first a judge must find them guilty of a crime. Keep Guantanamo open? No. If we have a case against these alleged terrorists bring them to the US. Try them according to the laws and constitution of the US.

  98. 117 Jennifer
    May 22, 2009 at 13:56

    P.S.

    I agree with Janet…….

  99. 118 georgepatrick
    May 22, 2009 at 15:26

    Cheney and Rumsfeld, also Carl Rove, are just the most evil persons on this world today ! what does Cheney has to tell us nowadays more than all the devil’s ideas he did spit on us during 8 years ???? go to hell you neocon fascists ! sorry but now there is hope, there is some more humanity around, there are less petrol neocons, there are less fascists ( two left : Iran stupid one and N Korea one ), there are more brains around !!!! who did spit 9/11 blood all over us ? who does believe the 9/11 story ??? who did invent and insist on Irak WMD ???
    Cheney please, go and get a good walk for your poor haert, I wish you all the best but keep on the sideline now with your childish talk about good and evil, black and white, axis of evil stupid talk !!
    I would like they close Guantanamo, keep them in normal prisons, not good enough ???
    Let us give all possible power to Obama and forget about 8 years of LIES !!!
    Do you really think we are stupid, brainless people, poor Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove, and of course BUSH neocon spirits of malware origin ???????

  100. 119 simeon Banda
    May 22, 2009 at 16:43

    Dear Editor,
    Catholic Education issue.
    In Malawi we have appreciated very highly catholic Education and up to now Marist Secondary School which tops all schools in Malawi has the highest enrollment. We usually close places simply because everybody wants to send the son there every year. Marist Brothers of the schools in Malawi left a good image to us all. It is unfortunate that in others parts of the world there could be such abuse. The first president of Ghana, Kwame Nkruma came from the catholic school and many more. Scandals of abuse must be rare here in Africa and not so obvious. We have high regard and esteem of these Religious men and women. “258824182547.”
    Simeon

  101. 120 john
    May 22, 2009 at 18:46

    I suggest Guantanamo should not be closed, the prisoners should be tried at U.S courts in the U.S, anyone found to be guilty should serve his sentence at Guantanamo as a convicted prisoner to help take away should i say the fears of those who does not want them in their back yard.

  102. 121 ~Rhoda in the United States
    May 22, 2009 at 19:23

    Well…I would probably do what the US government would do. Build another prison and keep it hush-hush so no one finds out.

    Our US government will not let them go free. Everyone will think those guys are free because that is what they will hear on the news.

    Hey here is an idea Obama, let them move into the White House with you, you have plenty of room….oh, you don’t want them around your family, well imagine that.

  103. 122 Triber
    May 22, 2009 at 23:33

    These men are not United States citizens to begin with. Thus, they are NOT under the US Constitution to be made available any American privileges. Actually, they are not even guaranteed rights under the Geneva Convention because that only applies when war has been declared. This war is not a declared war by the US. We, as Americans, take great exception to Obama and his dictatorship ways. He was told by Congress (his cronies) the day before he made his announcement that they would grant him no monies because he lacked any feasible plan and nobody wanted terrorists in their states. Obama basically got up and said he didn’t really care what anyone thought. This is not the American way. It is my contention that his uncaring ways of what the American public is saying is what people are tired of. Close Guantanamo, but have a plan, don’t just say I am doing it whether you like it or not. This country is not a dictatorship. We are a republic. We are all tired of being told your paying for this, your paying for that, and on and on and on. It never stops, everyday he is onto something new. He is always talking out of both sides of his mouth. WE ARE JUST PLAIN TIRED of his narcissistic ways. These men are NOT boy scouts. Do not treat them like they are. If you feel so bad for them then your country is welcome to take them off our hands. Hey, then we won’t have to chalk up the money for all their attorney fees. Sounds good to me!!

  104. 123 John
    May 23, 2009 at 00:39

    Put them into the back of a C-130 transport. Strap them into chairs with rollers on the bottom. Fly them to the waters where their friends are, I.E. pirates, open the back door and do a steep climb thus releasing them into the custody of Allah and the pirates. From 15,000 feet!

    Or, send them to Nancy Pelosi’s district, or Harry Reid’s or Obama,s and let them deal with them.
    Or announce the time of release and release them in the center of Yankee Stadium and let the New Yorkers deal with them. I’m sure the staff of the New York Times could take them in.

  105. May 23, 2009 at 03:23

    DEAR EDITOR:
    THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS FORUM TO STATE MY VIEWS. BEING AN AMERICAN I MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW THAN MOST OF YOUR LISTENERS.
    WE HERE IN THE USA VIEW GUANTANIMO AS A MAJOR REASON WHY TERORIST ATTACKS AROUND THE WORLD HAVE BEEN FOILED.
    THE NEW ADMINISTRATION AS POLITICALY CORRECT IT WANTS TO BE CAN NOT IGNORE THE PRACTICAL FACTS.
    THOSE THEY RELEASE GO BACK TO ATTACK YOU AND US. THOSE THEY HOLD GIVE VALUABLE INFORMATION FOR DEFENDING OURSELVES AGAINST THE LAWLESS THAT WOULD COMIT OBSCENE ACTS OF MURDER AGAINS MANKIND IN THE NAME OF RELIGION.
    ENOUGH SAID.

  106. 125 janet
    May 23, 2009 at 04:27

    Re: Keep Guantanamo open?

    These individuals are not guilty of a civil crime. They didn’t steal valuables or murder another civilian. They aren’t soldiers from another country’s army and not classified as prisons of war.

    Do you think they followed the Geneva Convention rules when the planes flew into the two towers as we watched them burn and fall? The pentagon, and those heroic people on flight 93? Innocent people? Those individuals in GITMO signed up with the Taleban / Osama Bin Laden. They are religious extremists. They want to kill Americans. And as far as I am concerned, if they want kill my fellow Americans, I could care less if they rot in GITMO. They have sent home those that were “at the wrong place at the wrong time”. What is it going to take to convenience you these individuals want to hurt us? Another attack?

    So now this administration wants to get rid of GITMO so “we” can heal wounds, and continue telling the world how sorry we are so we can change our reputation based on some really stupid individuals who took their authority to a whole new degrading level, humiliating the USA with their tactics, being further idiots and taking pictures? Note, these idiots are now serving time.

  107. 126 janet
    May 23, 2009 at 04:29

    Here, here Rhoda! Don’t they rent out Lincoln’s bedroom?

  108. 127 varun rengarajan
    May 23, 2009 at 14:21

    if i meet a guantanamo prisoner ,even though he may be worst man in this world, of course we can put him in a jail and can investigate about his wrongness he had done and we can put him in the jail even for years but we should not torcher him
    and slowly kill him like a slow poison but at the same time we cannot just leave him and let him do all sorts of nonsense.i really liked the idea of the Obama but i hope he will not open that prison again .

  109. May 24, 2009 at 01:23

    Put an end to this ridiculous nonsense and let them go home,
    and let that be the end of all this terrorist bullshit we,ve had to listen to over these recent years.
    But thats not the way of The West is it for The West HAS to create issues where none exist,and actually this is where you find the REAL TERRORISTS,the evil manipulators who ravage and kill and spoil.
    The wrong people have been in Gitmo.

  110. 129 Brian from Calif.
    May 24, 2009 at 02:49

    Get him or her a room next to Bush or Cheney’s place ,,, and roll the dice … baby!

  111. 130 varun rengarajan
    May 24, 2009 at 03:34

    when will you finish moderating my comment?

  112. 131 Listener
    May 24, 2009 at 17:22

    Train them to be the counter terrorist desperados.

  113. 132 Dennis Kriz
    May 24, 2009 at 18:59

    I would move the prisoners to Midway or Wake islands in the Pacific. These islands are (1) isolated, (2) still close to the United States (Hawaii) and (3) undisputed American territory.

  114. 133 T
    May 25, 2009 at 02:38

    We all know that almost all of them are innocent. Release them back to their home countries.

    As for the rest, either try them in civilian courts. Or, release their case files to prove why they shouldn’t be tried on the mainland. Now, Obama is just continuing the neocon policies he promised to stop. Just another politician.

  115. May 25, 2009 at 06:42

    Why is this so hard ? It has to be determined – who is a terrorist and who not !

    1. Try in a proper criminal court : I may not understand the rigour of the evidence required in a criminal court as opposed to the military court, but a proper trial is the only acceptable course, given the history of the justice meted out.

    2. Those that are wrongly in Guantanamo (GB) should be compensated and freed. May be they should be hand-held and *prevented* from going back to their country.

    3. Those that are guilty should be put away as the President said.

    4. Those that are in-between should be rehabilitated carefully – as the Saudis are doing / have done.

    Where is the rocket science in this ?

    Remember – it is not justice that we’re fighting for here – we’re fighting for the visibility of justice too. Ask a retired state Supreme Court judge to arbitrate the process.

  116. 135 Practical Fella
    May 25, 2009 at 15:32

    Ideal to put them on trial on U.S. mainland or even offshore (e.g. Guam, Wake Island, Diego Gargia) in special courts or tribunals, but recognise they are in the situation largely because of lack of evidence. So solution might be to detain them under some kind of preventive detention order called the Internal Security Act in some countries, which to most civil rights advocates is a breach of civil liberties. Such legislation is usually justified only in wartime or civil emergency.

    Here is a possible solution: send them to countries like Kosovo, Bosnia or Albania, Tanzania and Djibouti with large Muslim populations which are not known for harsh legal systems, but before that, ensure their governments have passed some kind of Internal Security laws, if they do not already have them, to enable them to detain the detainees without trial. These laws could be moderated by having some form of detention review by a tribunal, which has powers to renew their detention orders, impose creative orders, or to set them free.

    Whilst they are in detention in these Muslim-majority countries, the detainees would undergo a program which allows them to transition of normal life, with the possibility that they can eventually become citizens of these countries, and not be deported to their home countries where they may face further charges, trial, torture and death sentences.

    On the base itself, sovereignty should speedily be returned to Cuba much like Hong Kong was returned to China.

  117. 136 uwayezu victor
    May 26, 2009 at 14:38

    It is not easy to make confortable to the prisoner also it is unhuman to keep a innocent in jail.U S government has to open special courts and judge as soon as possible the Guant prisoners.Then,the condamned have to be kept in U S ordinary jails and the innocent leave the jail and the government let them choosing where to go and if not staying in US.

  118. 137 Mark Benner
    May 26, 2009 at 16:40

    One fo the more amazing aspects of Obama’s current delimma is that many reasonable people are saying that persons who were rounded up, held without charge and subjected to abusive treatment(including torture and abuse which the U.S. has previously prosecuted others for committing.) who prior to this experience had little or no animosity towards the U.S. are now a threat to U.S. security and cannot be released. In short these people have been victimized by their detention and becasue of their detention must continue to be held without guilt or commision of a crime.

    Clearly the Bush administration’s policy towards the Pow’s it took in its so called War on Terror violate the very basic concepts of our constitution and treaty obligations – but that was typical Bush policy. The declaration of these people as enemey combatants was a sinister act, as was the policy of holding these people on foreign soil so our laws could be violated by the government. We also forget that many of these prisoners are not guilty.

    In fact investigations and subsequent prosecutions of members of the Bush administration are long overdue. Honest investigations into the matter will demonstrate the criminal liability of many including president Bushand vice president Cheney. Then the delimma will be – do we hold our leaders responsible for their crimes as we have leaders of other human rights abusers from Milosovish to the leaders of Japan and germany after WWII.

  119. May 30, 2009 at 11:12

    I would not put the chicken before the egg in the first place. The US wants to fight a long war and no doubt its opponents also. The trick is not to get involved in pyrrhic wars. In any war, Guantanamos go with the territory and only end when it does.

  120. 139 Roy Jackson
    November 14, 2009 at 04:05

    I do not understand why these detainees should not be sent to an international tribunal for war crimes. It seems the most logical thing to do, it was a premeditated act of aggression committed against a civilian population. This will lend credibility to the convictions and place a world-wide moral condemnation on terrorism. After that then perhaps all nations, west and east, will stop encouraging and supporting some terrorists as “freedom fighters.”


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