23
Jan
09

Are you glad Gitmo’s going?

One option for today’s show in Florida. I’m sure you’ve seen that the Guantanamo Bay prison camp is to shut within a year.

President Obama spoke in his inauguration address about ‘rejecting as false the choice between our safety and our ideals’. Do you agree with him?

Or must concern for due process and human rights be tempered by an understanding of the threat that Islamists post to America and many other countries in the world?


17 Responses to “Are you glad Gitmo’s going?”


  1. 1 Count Iblis
    January 23, 2009 at 13:26

    ….concern for due process and human rights be tempered of an understanding of the threat that X poses to country Y

    Let Y be the Soviet Union, China, or Cuba and X be dissidents. Given that the US has always criticized repressive measures taken in these countries, the US cannot use similar measures to deal with a much lesser problem. Al Qa’ida poses no threat at all to the US democratic system. By commiting acts of terror in the US you are not going to overthrow the government. On the other hand, the dissidents in China are much more of a threat to the Chinese government.

  2. January 23, 2009 at 13:28

    The bases for justice in a free society is innocent until proven guilty. I know that the world is a dangerous place, and Bush and his staff thought they were doing good, but they did lose this idea.They assumed a lot of the people they suspected were automaticaly guilty and treated them as such. Someone forgot along the way that people ran the investigations and people are not always perfect. It says on a building in downtown Ft. Myers sums it up best, the first law of society is justice.

  3. January 23, 2009 at 13:40

    I’m very glad to see Gitmo going. For it’s entire existence it’s be a blot on any claim America tried to have that they maintain freedom and democracy as an example to the world.

    However, dealing with the existing prisoners will be a major problem–a problem of George W. Bush’s causing.

    The Bush administration’s use of highly questionable tactics like kidnapping and torture may have seemed expedient at the time but they have made it almost impossible to bring the Gitmo inmates to justice even where there is strong evidence.

    If any genuine terrorists go free, the responsibility must lie squarely with the illegal “cowboy” tactics Bush and Cheney were so fond of. However, the speed with with Obama signed the executive order makes me wonder if he has a solution up his sleeve.

  4. 4 Dave in Florida
    January 23, 2009 at 13:43

    The U.S. can not continue with the “Do as I say, not as I do” attitude of the Bush administration. Telling other countries not to use brutality and torture, all the while using the very practices you preach against, places Bush in the same exclusive club as Robert Mugabe and Fidel Castro.

    The U.S. can, and must, protect itself against terror; however, this can be done without lowering ourselves to the level of the same terrorists we are fighting.

  5. January 23, 2009 at 13:51

    President Obama rightly said,
    as you have set in the above-mentioned subject.

    basicaly,gitmo jails has no legal justification,
    these prisons are black dot on the American legal system,
    it is also against the justice,as expressed by the famous jurists all around the world,
    waterboarding and like other way of punishment,solitary confinement before the decison of relevant court is called tyrant not justice.

    American people diagreed with the cuban camps,
    that was reason they were hidden from the public eyes,
    some leading newspapers informed American people about their existance,
    having known the general public’s opinion democratic made it a issue and got more votes.

    shouldn’t be existance,Obama ‘s first action is really according to his promise ,made in the election compaign to the people.

    ”rejecting as false the coice between our safety and our ideals,
    i am fully agree with view of president Obama.

  6. 6 Steve
    January 23, 2009 at 14:22

    On CNN last night, they showed a viewer’s “video” about her comments about the closing of Gitmo. First, she was of the thrilled nature that it was being closed, as she was overly concerned about america’s reputation, but then IMMEDIATELY went into “but where will they go? they are terrorists and why would we want to get terrorists the rights that americans get”?

    The point is that they are innocent until proven guilty, just like everyone else.

  7. 7 Ibrahim in UK
    January 23, 2009 at 15:05

    Yes and no.
    Guantanamo Bay was a very public symbol of the immorality of American foreign policy. Suspects have been kidnapped and tortured for decades before Gitmo or Bush entered the scene. The perceived enemy has changed from communist-sympathisers to islamists, but the tactics remain the same. Support and assist the rise of a pro-US dictator… abduct, torture and kill the opposition.
    When Guantanamo Bay closes, I doubt the abduction and torture will end with it. As they say, out of sight out of mind. Americans (and the rest of the world) can carry on with life normally while the horrors of US foreign policy continues out of public view.

  8. 8 archibald in oregon
    January 23, 2009 at 17:10

    They should raze Gitmo and plant a field of flowers that spell out “Never Again”.

  9. 9 Habiba Ghani
    January 23, 2009 at 17:50

    Yes, as a Muslim i am very happy that it is going but its just one such institution that is being closed —-God Knows that how many other Guantanamo Bayare still out there which we don’t know about😦

  10. 10 Jonathan (sunny San Francisco)
    January 23, 2009 at 18:37

    Of course I’m glad to see Gitmo closed. Gitmo is the best recruiting tool Al Qaeda ever had, and it cost us our most precious asset: the moral high ground.

  11. 11 Sabastion
    January 23, 2009 at 18:49

    Yes whole heartedly and without reservation.

    We can not claim the moral high ground, while simultaneously violating the principles at the heart of the ground.

    “Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.” – Benjamin Franklin

  12. 12 Syed Hasan Turab
    January 23, 2009 at 22:26

    Removal of human abuse center is a sign of Human dignity.

  13. January 24, 2009 at 00:54

    GITMO should become a museum like prison camps have in Chile and Germany so that we find our humanity and humility and keep it a little longer this time. It could be part of a tourist package when we normalize relations with Cuba.

  14. 14 Michael in Portland OR
    January 24, 2009 at 06:51

    Yes it is good. But I still have concerns with how the detainies will end up being dealt with. Can secret courts truely be seen as just? How can anyone trust the results?

    So I am hoping that Obama will be able to have an expedited yet just solution to this inherited mess.

  15. January 25, 2009 at 02:20

    Note: I wrote this on BBC Have Your Say platform the following remarks….

    President Barack Obama made the correct decision about closing Guantanamo Bay Camp…

    ~Dennis Junior~

  16. 16 peter hindrup
    January 25, 2009 at 17:02

    No, I think Gitmo ought to be kept open. I cannot think of a better place to incarcerate Bush, Blair, Howard and their cronies.

  17. January 26, 2009 at 18:08

    Gitmo was a great place to put dangerous bad guys who were not a part of a nation state at war with the West and America in particular.

    Most nation states would have simply offed the bad guys. America sure did during WW II, when American landed immigrents were forced back to Germany and then forced by the Germans to go back to America and sabatage American assets. The German had no choice and did not want to hurt America so they gave up, and explained what had happened to them.

    Roosevelt had them executed.

    We were a heck of a lot better today than we were back in WW II. Back then we fire bombed big wooded cities like Tokyo and Dresdin. We even nuked a couple Japanese cities filled with civilians. We have grown far more humanitarian than back in the old days when we got serious with enemies and the places where they came from.

    It is unbelievable that we spent so much treasure to help build Japan and Germany only to be greeted with some sort of insulting insults that we are just really awlful to killers of civilians and kids by feeding them so well and giving them prayer time and all the luxury that they would not have back in the hell holes where they came from.

    troop


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