11
Jul
08

Would you eat dog meat?

Hi, I’m Abby from Newshour. We’d love to know what you think about Beijing banning restaurants from serving dog meat at the Olympics.

They’ve done this to avoid offending foreign sensibilities. But are they being over-sensitive? Dog meat is part of Chinese cuisine – and that of several other countries too. Who should decides what food is ‘offensive’ and ‘unusual’ ? Is there any difference between eating beef or pork, and eating horse or dog? Would you be happy to see dog meat on the menu?


75 Responses to “Would you eat dog meat?”


  1. 1 Julie P
    July 11, 2008 at 18:55

    You must have been reading my mind. I read about that earlier today and was going to bring it up.

    For me, dogs and cats are pets, a part of the family. They have never, nor will they ever, join me at the dinner table, but my dog and cat pets have been and will continue to be thought of as a part of the family.

    I can say that on one visit to a foreign country I ate a dish that I thought was delicious. I had no idea what the meat was, and being quite young, didn’t know to ask. Afterward I learned the meat in it was feline. It was then I immediately expelled my meal.

    On that note I think it is a courtsey for the Chinese to accomodate their guests. It’s a temporary situation, not meant to be permanent.

  2. July 11, 2008 at 18:58

    A dog is too intelligent of an animal to put on my dinner table.

    • 3 Matthew
      May 17, 2009 at 21:47

      Nate,

      If you’re going to base what you can and cannot eat on the intelligence of that being then I hope you don’t eat pigs. Pigs are regarded as one of the most intelligent species (somewhere just after dolphins).

      Would you agree that its OK to eat a severely mentally disabled human being?

      I hope not.

      You shouldn’t use “lack of intelligence” (what ever it means, because all creatures are intelligent in their own unique ways) as a justification for eating anything- its a very poor argument. It doesn’t work.

  3. 4 steve
    July 11, 2008 at 19:01

    Uh oh, isn’t it politically incorrect to criticize any nonwestern culture?

    Don’t europeans eat horsemeat?

  4. 5 Brett
    July 11, 2008 at 19:22

    Would I eat dog meat? Being that I’m a vegetarian, no I wouldn’t. Besides, it’s not in my culture. I have three pups as pets and would under no circumstances eat their kind.
    People crying about eating dogs mostly eat cows and chickens. What makes dogs so much worse than eating any other livestock aside from the fact it may not be part of your own culture?

    Regards,
    Brett ~ Richmond, Va.

  5. 6 Susan USA
    July 11, 2008 at 19:22

    If it was the only means for survival, then I guess it would have to be acceptable. I don’t have any pets, but it seems this is on the verge of barbaric.

  6. 7 Katharina in Ghent
    July 11, 2008 at 19:23

    “Fido, the other white meat!” – Something I saw on a T-Shirt years ago…

    No, I would never eat cat, dog or horse meat, I’ve tried rabbit 2 or 3 times, but I didn’t like it very much. Same goes for ostrich, and I also would have my doubts about kangaroo or alligator. Here in the West we have enough conventional meat to fill our plates, we don’t need to experiment with big juicy caterpillars or something else, but I understand (to some degree) that other cultures don’t have a cow so easily in their backyard like the Belgians do.

    BTW Steve, yes, here horse meat is still quite popular, but I heard that according to law the farmer has to basically make the decision early in the horses life whether it’s supposed to serve humans as a whole or as dinner…

  7. 8 Brett
    July 11, 2008 at 19:30

    Dog meat is part of Chinese cuisine – and that of several other countries too.

    And I think it is unfortunate that they are being forced to restrict their own culture and cuisine on their own soil because some westerners don’t like the idea of eating dog.
    Look, if you don’t want to eat it, you don’t have to. Browse over it and look for something else on the menu. In my opinion, the thought of eating most meat now makes me sick. I don’t petition restaurants to take it off of the menu because I don’t like it. I simply don’t order it.
    If a western Olympics accompanied by a western menu was whats desired, why is it being held in China? Let them do their thing and focus on larger issues revolving around Politics and Human Rights.

    Is China afraid that people will throw in their “Free Tibet” bumperstickers and T-Shirts for some reading “Free Lassie”?

    Regards,
    Brett ~ Richmond, Va.

  8. 9 selena
    July 11, 2008 at 19:40

    I would try it if I were in a country where it was eaten.

    Anyway, I am in my Paris vegetarian mode. So, no meat unitl Christmas and maybe not then.

    The issue here is whether we should be telling other people what to eat.

    Considering we have no choice but to eat living things, if we wish to live, who am I to tell others what they can and can’t eat?

  9. 10 Susan USA
    July 11, 2008 at 19:47

    The people going to the Olympics are considered “guests” in China. Sometimes we have to make accomdations to make our guests, feel comfortable.

    I also dont believe it’s “some westerners” I bet you would find the majority of westerners are offended by this. You don’t have to be an animal activist to feel this way either.

  10. 11 Asad Babyl
    July 11, 2008 at 19:54

    Why not? If it’s not a stray dog, but one grown specificaly for food, I’d at least give it a try. Might be pretty stringy though, like cat.

  11. 12 Brett
    July 11, 2008 at 20:01

    It’s not as if they are stringing dogs up in butcher shops… They are listing them on the menu and serving it to those who want it.

    Can’t we just be accepting of others cultures?

    If it upsets you to simply see ‘dog’ on a printed menu, i feel sorry for you. Reading the daily news is far more traumatic than that.

    Is it not hypocritical for guests to justify their own carnivorous habits and preferences while criticizing those of their host?

    If your going to eat slaughtered animals, don’t get upset because another country does the same, just with different animals.

  12. 13 Susan USA
    July 11, 2008 at 20:05

    Like I said, here where I live cats and dogs are part of your family if you own them. Would you eat a family member? So yes, it would be offensive to people who are not accustomed to this.

    I think is was a very wise choice for Beijing to make this decision. You don’t want guests to have a lasting impression for their first time visiting China of dogs being served on a platter.

  13. 14 Susan USA
    July 11, 2008 at 20:14

    I don’t think the question is accepting of other cultures. No, I don’t have to be accepting. Should I be tolerant? Sure. But if I had a group of Turkish guests, you can bet I wouldn’t have pork on my menu.

    I applaud China for having the understanding and sensitivity to understand how other cultures would be offended by this and making some minor adjustments to their menu in the short term.

  14. 15 tINO
    July 11, 2008 at 20:23

    I could care less if it is on their menu myself, though I am not sure I would eat it. I like to try all kinds of new things but having had a pet dog, it would be a little weird for me.

    Rabbit, on the other hand, I find incredibly delicious – perhaps my favorite land meat.

  15. 16 selena
    July 11, 2008 at 20:34

    #Susan

    If the shoe were on the other foot and the Olympics were being held in the US, would you expect the US government to take cow off the menu to please people from India?

  16. 17 Brett
    July 11, 2008 at 20:46

    @ Selena:
    I was going to say the same thing but the obvious argument to that is “Well we would only offend Indians, China is offending more than one culture by munching on ‘family members.'”

    And yea, I would LOVE to see the day when cow is taken off of a US menu to appease another culture. HA!

  17. 18 Brett
    July 11, 2008 at 20:47

    On a side note… People have pet fish… and they eat seafood.

  18. 19 nelsoni
    July 11, 2008 at 20:52

    The chinese are simply playing to the gallery since Dog meat is part of their cuisine.
    The best they can do is to tell people specifically what dishes contain dog meat so they can be avoided by guests. Personally, I would NEVER eat dog meat.

  19. July 11, 2008 at 21:06

    Eating animals, including human beings, is wrong, unless in exceptional circumstances, and then only with the full consent of the animal or person in question.

  20. 21 Dennis
    July 11, 2008 at 21:32

    @ Abby from BBC’s Newshour

    and everyone else!

    Simple answer NOT in your life….

    Dennis
    Onondaga Community College
    Syracuse, New York
    United States of America

  21. 22 Susan USA
    July 11, 2008 at 21:40

    @selena

    Brett beat me to my response. The U.S. among many countries do not eat dog or cat. Were not talking about a menu item that people just don’t like the taste of. We are talking about something that is clearly offensive to many people. We make “reasonable” accomadations every day for people. I emphasize reasonable.

    So I don’t think taking dog off the menu is unreasonable for a short-term alternative. I’m sure if the locals or visitors who are craving dog, will still be able to find it.

  22. 23 steve b - uk
    July 11, 2008 at 22:05

    WHYSERS

    dogs talk to you, share your emotions. joys and sorrows. protect you. love you. I just couldn’t!

  23. 24 Pangolin-California
    July 11, 2008 at 22:43

    According to the pastor of the local parish when I was a teen I was eating human. “Body of Christ, blood of Christ” and all that.

    Now I’m supposed to get upset about eating dog? I’ve eaten pork, chicken, fish, lamb,rabbit, goat, beef, veal, buffalo, turkey, goose, quail, duck, ostrich, elk, snails, crab, lobster, shrimp, crayfish (really just a water-bug). I’ve had herbs from a traditional Chinese herbalist that had at various times crickets, beetles, lizards, snake and god only knows what else.

    If it’s not poison, not an endangered species (mostly), not talking to me or wearing tags with a pet name on it I’ll eat it. With the price of chicken going up I’ve had my eye on the local pigeons.

    Squab anyone?

    Fussy little moralities are for rich, white people.

  24. 25 selena
    July 11, 2008 at 22:55

    @steve

    When I was a child, we had livestock that we kept for a while and then ate. Believe me, chickens and goats and cows are friend too.

    They have unique personalities and it is very hard to part with them. I think of them as no different from my cat today.

    The fact is we kill to eat!

  25. 26 Venessa
    July 11, 2008 at 23:15

    Pangolin-California ~ Well said.

  26. 27 Tom D Ford
    July 12, 2008 at 00:28

    If humans don’t seriously get control of world population growth I foresee a return of cannibalism.

    Soylent Green, anyone?

  27. 28 simone frith
    July 12, 2008 at 01:50

    I live in South Korea and refuse to try dog meat. I would do the same if I were to go to the Olympics in China. But after all of the arrests of Monks and Illegal Immigrant workers- I refuse to attend, even though it is a slingshot away.

    South Korea temporarily banned dog meat from their menu during the olympics but that never stopped anyone, or any restaurant who wasn’t already accustomed to the idea from eating it (for the most part).

    Frankly, I think the issue of anyone going to the Olympics after all that has happened in terms of religious issues is a jerk.

  28. 29 Asad Babyl
    July 12, 2008 at 05:24

    Now that I come to think about it, I would probably try human if I could legaly do it. But people are full of chemicals nowadays, so I don’t think they would constitute a good meal.

    What’s more rewarding than one’s share of The Most Dangerous Game?

  29. 30 Wendy
    July 12, 2008 at 06:57

    The news says “forbids all designated Olympic restaurants from offering dog and urges other food outlets to remove the meat from menus. ” I think the Chinese government is to make sure the guests who are against dog meat have restaurants to go to. If you do want to try dog meat, u can go to other restaurants. But, since it is summer, it will be very hot in Beijing, u’d better not try dog meat even if u really want to, otherwise, u may get sick. But anyway, I don’t think Beijing has a strong tradition to eat dogs. Especially in summer, even if it is not banned, it is hard to find dog meat on menu.

  30. 31 Wendy
    July 12, 2008 at 07:13

    Just to clarify something. All food is considered to have some medical characteristics in Chinese medical theory. Dog meat is considered to be “very hot”. For most Chinese, dog meat is not considered to be very healthy food. Thus, in most parts of China, people who think dog meat is delicious only have dog meat in very cold winter, otherwise, they will be sick. But for people in very cold and/or very wet places, it may be ok to eat dog meat all year round.

  31. 32 John van Dokkumburg
    July 12, 2008 at 09:32

    Every good dog is a fellow , every bad a stick on the ass , just eat every dog isnt ok .. if you think dog meat is good – think twice , who of both you wanna choose ….. for meat ..

  32. 33 Omunyaruguru
    July 12, 2008 at 09:40

    The chinese have cheated the world of an adventure – delicious dog meat. In my country (Uganda) a certain type of locust is a delicay that comes around twice a year. Because I enjoy these locusts, I thought I would easily enjoy catepillars in southern africa. I tried them as a starter and failed to get them past my lips. My hosts munched away in evident bliss as I watched. I was never offended but rather dissapointed at my failure.

    Wherever I visit I try out the foods unique to that culture. In San Francisco I did various sea foods as my colleagues from Uganda watched in horror.

    During my honeymoon at a seaside resort many years ago, my then brand new wife nearly initiated divorce proceedings because I ate octopus.

    Hiding culture just because Westerners would be offended is a lousy action. Let us see chinese culture as it is.

    YES I would try dog meat if I found it on the menu.

  33. 34 Abhinav
    July 12, 2008 at 10:12

    well,who am i to decide the menu of other people?
    To take an example Muslims do not eat Pork,so should i serve it in the menu???no,never.
    Whereas Hindus are forbidden to Cow meat so do i put it in their menu???
    i think its their own choice on what to eat and what not to eat.

  34. 35 Emile Barre
    July 12, 2008 at 11:57

    No I would not. But that could be due to philistinism.

  35. 36 aspet
    July 12, 2008 at 20:10

    Saturday July 12, 2008, 12:08 pm
    China has ordered the 112 official Olympic restaurants not to serve dog meat during the Beijing Olympics in August so as not to gross out Westerners. They also strongly suggest that all the other eateries in town stop selling dog meat for the month, too. The move is like their orders to shut factories to clear pollution for the month: purely cosmetic. If anything it shows how deeply entrenched dog-eating is. Animal groups say the practice is actually growing into a big business worth about $4 billion a year. …

  36. 37 hilke
    July 12, 2008 at 21:16

    I just wish all these people who say that it is ok because it is their culture, and Brett said it is not as if they are stringing dogs up in the butcher’s shop would get some info from internet on this matter.
    And there is plenty about, Brett look up pressed dog in Korea, really cute pictures to look at, check the video on you tube and how a dog is skinned alive, how cats are boiled alive.
    Make up your mind and comment again. and please watch all footage that you can find.
    Seoul banned dog meat because of the Olympics, as somebody stated it is only temporarily. after the olympics it will go on again. And whilst in Beijing you might not find dogfood, the rest of China will happily go on with slaughtering the way they do best.
    Again excuses t6o eat meat, but not wanting to know how it ends up on your plate. I’m sure if one of you who eats meat at all, spends 5 minutes in a slaughterhouse, will never eat meat again and will have many sleepless nights.
    And if one thinks that human and political issues are more important tthan animal issues, I’ve got nothing more to say, because It is a waste ot time to try to make sense to ignorant hillbillies.

  37. 38 Katharina in Ghent
    July 12, 2008 at 22:19

    Dear animal lovers,

    I’m one of the ongoing moderators and I had to delete a few comments that were waaaay overboard! I understand that you have deep feelings for your animals, and I love them too, but if you can’t express your emotions in a civilized manner, I will have to keep pushing the “delete” button. If in doubt, I recommend to consult the contributors’ charter.

    Thank you all for your understanding and good writing from all the civilized meat-eaters and non-meat-eaters alike!

  38. 39 Omunyaruguru
    July 13, 2008 at 00:03

    @ Hilke,

    “And if one thinks that human and political issues are more important tthan animal issues, I’ve got nothing more to say, because It is a waste ot time to try to make sense to ignorant hillbillies.”

    Hey Hey Hey!!! Wait a minute, getting realy emotional there just because some folk else where eat different from you.

    In my part of the world, certain species of mango are often raided by flies that lay their eggs therein. Of course the eggs make maggots and so on. some years back I hosted some Americans and picked the best possible mangoes for them. One of them discovered maggots in her mango while halfway through. She screamed!! She wanted to see a doctor immediately but we were 200 miles from the nearest doctor she could find. You know what I did? I told her ” Look here dear, you just added a little more protein to your diet.” She relaxed and ate more mangoes. She was flexible and not locked up into a narrow veiw of life.

  39. 40 Omunyaruguru
    July 13, 2008 at 00:08

    I think we should all know that there are very few absolutes in life.Societies set their values and values are dynamic. the only constant am very sure of in life is change.

  40. 41 alex
    July 13, 2008 at 02:40

    Food is food. If you discount culture, what gives energy is considered food. For plants it is sunlight and soil and water, humans cant live on what plants do alone. I have a very objective opinion because i have seen many cultures. I think you will find those who are closed to dogs being food haven’t experienced a lot of other cultures.

    What it comes down to is respect. China has interesting cultural view when it comes to respect. I think they know that most “western” cultures do not include dog on daily diets.

    It also comes down to what is cheap enough to mass produce.

  41. 42 Roberto
    July 13, 2008 at 04:43

    I’m one of the ongoing moderators and I had to delete a few comments that were waaaay overboard!
    ————————————————————————————————

    —— The problem being that modern Americans see their pets as family and like most family members, the pet owners can’t control the little beasts, but take massive offense that anyone would dare harm a hair.

    Been attacked a dozen times in my park while running by a pack consisting of a pit bull, doberman, and dalmation, all while the adult children of the owner of the beasts watched with nary a concern in the world.

    Finally I got fed up after driving them off for the umpteenth time and they headed for another poor citizen walking through. I ran straight home and called animal control. I’d already talked to the owner, but he wasn’t doing his job and obviously his adult kids got a kick out it. These were family and sweethearts within the family, a sort of sick extension of a tribal system I guess.

    Many if not most American pets get better health care than a few billion of the earth’s inhabitants. Eat better too, and live in nice comfy digs.

    To wit: “Dogs in America get more affection than women in most Third World countries.”…….noted dog whisperer, Cesar Millan….

    With that disclaimer, the dog and the horse have always held a special place in the American heart. High intelligence, loyal obediance and prodigious workers, friends and companions, we owe them a debt in human development.

    When I see that the Chinese are importing a noble breed such as the St Bernard to be crossed with local chows to create a larger, tender “veal” version of puppy to be harvested for local haute cuisine, it churns my stomach.

    Texas has the largest horse slaughtering operations in the world, all butchered, processed, and shipped to Europe, probably by a mostly illegal immigrant work force. So, it ain’t just China, but these horses tend to be cast offs of very large, expensive to maintain animals, not filet mignon thoroughbreds.

    I would also add that the 2008 Olympics might as well be called Back to the Future 1936 Berlin Olympics. The Chinese have displaced something like a million citizens to build and clean up the place to hold the thing, and have highjacked same citizens to clean up the harbor waters by hand in local skiffs where the sailing competition is to be held because of all the slime build up due to pollution of their industries.

    The air is not fit for even one of their haute cuisine dogs to breath.

    Oh well, this is what moderns call progress and evolution, the next step beyond religion. Cain’t wait for what’s next.

  42. 43 parth guragain
    July 13, 2008 at 06:53

    this topic is a intresting one.what i think is there is difference in animal eating all around world.in hindu religion eating cow is the greatest sin .in hindu religion cow is regarded as mother.Accordingly in islam eating pig is greatest of sin .so accordingly to buddists we shouldn’t take voilence and take meat of any animal.so there is difference in sating habit all around world.so chinese removing dog from menu is rediculous one .dog menu shouldn’t be removed from menu.those who want to take it will take it and those who doesn’t will ignore it.these things have been done to please the westeners.another idea can be we should’t take meat at all.

  43. 44 Venessa
    July 13, 2008 at 07:14

    I think it is ridiculous for the Chinese to remove dog from the menu for the Olympics. In their culture it is an acceptable dish. When I travel around the world I do not expect people to cater to me. People that are offended choose to be offended. I do not wish someone to tell me that I cannot eat beef because it might offend someone.

    Please! When you travel to a destination far from home you should hardly expect someone to think as you do! If you do, perhaps you may want to drive your car instead…..anything further destination might offend you.

  44. July 13, 2008 at 07:28

    hello,
    in the northeasternpart of india particularly manipur dog meat is a delicious food item but inour state its tabooto eatdogmeatisolated instance of adivasi karagger community eating rats are still in vogue .
    but nothing particular to say about ..if we eat meatall meat are one and the same according to the one who eats it ..
    devadas.v
    talap

    kannur

  45. 46 Mohamed
    July 13, 2008 at 08:43

    Well, I wouldn’t eat dog meat. I can’t imagine having dog meat on my dinner table with my wife and son, cutting it and giving a piece to each one. Dogs are pets; some people have them at home. Moreover, we have dogs just moving in streets in my country. They eat anything they find in streets. We have other alternatives which are healthy and delicious like cows, sheep and goats.
    As for the games it is not for good restaurants will not serve dog meat; it is just during the games then they can go back to their traditions.
    So I am not with eating dog meat, however I respect the Chinese traditions and habits.

    Best Regards

  46. 47 Tom
    July 13, 2008 at 14:11

    I wouldn’t eat dog meat just as I wouldn’t eat crows, snails or grubs – my own personal inhibition prevents me from eating it, especially when other forms of meat are freely available. However, not all places have as many choices and “proper” meat such as beef and lamb are seen as luxury items.

    There’s nothing sinister with other people without such inhibitions from eating cats or dogs, provided that they are not endangered, illegally poached or stolen from their rightful owners. In fact, I would say the eating of dog meat should be respected more than the Japanese consumption of equally intelligent but highly endangered whales hunted deceptively for scientific research.

    While westerners, in general, take offense at other culture’s eating cat or dog meat, I could also see that, in general, they do not see Muslim’s abstinence from pork in the same light. Honestly, if you are a westerner and have travelled to a Muslim country, how many of you have complained or felt annoyed that their hotels serve beef bacons and chicken sausages in their buffet menu?

  47. July 13, 2008 at 14:24

    Never. Not even if I was starving would I eat the flesh any living creature. And.. I respect everyone who doesn’t make an innocent third party suffer (as people eating animals, women being abused in some cultures, children being trafficked etc). What I don’t respect is ‘culture’ as an excuse for all kinds of horrible practices.

  48. 49 Karmic reaction
    July 13, 2008 at 17:10

    I would like to point out one thing. In India, beef is forbidden. Until very recently, people had cows as “pets” (for lack of a better metaphor)… they were treated with love and affection… with gratitude for providing milk… they were treated as part of family. The thought of slaughtering them was unknown to people. Even today Most orthodox Hindus hate and curse “people of the west” who eat cows…. they are regarded as mlecchas (infidels). Now, I really find it hard to believe that people who are all for cow meat are offended by the thought of dog meat. Now, modern hindus have accepted that cows are parts of diet of most westerners though they themselves choose to remain vegetarian or atleast non-beef-eating-meat-eaters. I think, dog-eating should be treated by the westerners in the same light if they themselves eat cow or any other kind of meat. Otherwise, they are just hypocrites.

  49. 50 Tino
    July 13, 2008 at 17:49

    “Never. Not even if I was starving would I eat the flesh any living creature.”

    Wow, I am surprised you are not dead yet from your diet of dirt, rocks, water, and metal. I assume you are a vegetarian, which means you eat the flesh of living plants. This should be considered an equal sin to eating animals. Maybe you should come off of your high horse – before I eat it =).

  50. 51 Jonathan (sunny San Francisco)
    July 14, 2008 at 08:51

    Hi, Abby from Newshour! I’d love to tell you what I think about “BEIJING BANS BOWSER BUFFET” after a couple of quick little details. (I assume “Dog meat” means meat from dogs, not for them.) Would I be happy to see dog meat on the menu? Only if it was included in the dish.

    A previous respondent declared that “…Dogs and cats will never join me at the dinner table.” A sensible policy, whether informed by esthetics, hygiene, tradition, religion, principle, or furniture, but no answer to whether they would be welcome on the table itself.

    Despite the title of the web page, you don’t ask, “Is it wrong to eat dog meat?” You don’t ask, “We in the West think dogs are noble and cows are meat, but some cultures think the opposite. Are we right to take our traditions as moral principles, and seek to impose them on the rest of the world?”

    Instead, you inform us that the rulers of China, fearing that many foreigners might recoil from the notion of eating dog, will not offer it to them. This spirit of tender concern does not inform their policy of kidnapping, beating, and murdering Buddhist monks and nuns in Tibet, or of sheltering the butchers who govern Sudan from sanctions or even scolding by the UN. Yet you wonder if this modified menu–“None from column Dog”–might be the thin wedge of political correctness that could reduce a robustly brutal, bloodthirsty gerontocracy to a wimpy, pathetic PC castrato, afraid of its own shadow.

    I’ll be a good sport, since I’m not one of those scolds who complains that you would “waste time on [your story] when [my own irrelevant, obsessive pet issue] is happening every day!” Let me put it this way:

    “As the 1936 Olympics in Berlin approach, the German government is goose-stepping double time to putting its best foot forward, or best boot as some say. The National Socialists, sensitive to their image abroad, have taken pains to treat their foreign guests of all races with equal courtesy. But are they being oversensitive? Stripping Jews of rights, citizenship, property, and life itself is said to be a central tenet of the Reich. Hatred of Jews is a thread woven through 2,000 years of European culture and history. And really, is it that different from the treatment of Negroes in America? Or Liverpudlians pretty nearly everywhere we know of? As the Nazis “put on a happy face” for the world, do they mask the genuine zeitgeist and thus deny the authentic European experience? Who should determine what behavior is “offensive” or “unusual?” Would you be happy to live near a Jew?”

    Back to you, with the closing personal note that I wouldn’t knowingly eat dog meat. Continuing collapse of financial markets could someday compel consideration of cat food consumption though.

  51. 52 Robert
    July 14, 2008 at 11:56

    Where do you draw a line? This animal is ok and this isn’t? Anybody who eats meat has no right to complain at the source of meat others have choosen.

    Perhaps with an endangered speices then I would side with the banning of it’s consumption, but with a populus animal like dog can we really comment.

    The view that dogs are ‘pets’ is a very European/American one. In other parts of the world they are seen as simply work animals or even pests. Many of the africans I work with have a slight fear of them and can’t understand why we would want to keep one in our homes. Maybe to most humans alive on the planet, the notion of pampering a dog is stranger than that of eating a dog?

  52. 53 Brett
    July 14, 2008 at 13:02

    @ hike:
    Make up your mind and comment again. and please watch all footage that you can find.

    Oh I’m completely against eating dog as well as meat in general, I have formed my opinion. But I’m more interested in making the points that you have no ground to stand on if you slaughter and consume the animals of your choice, then get upset when others do the same.
    The western meat industry isn’t notorious for its kind treatment of those which they slaughter and consume either…

  53. 54 Pon
    July 14, 2008 at 19:45

    i think its rather very very unfortunate that the chinese government is trying to hide or shy away from their culture just because of some ‘olympic games’ that is meant to take place in their country. They should be proud of their culture (if its really their culture) and display ‘dog meat’ on their menu since they cannot force the so much debated ‘dog meat’ down the throats of westerners who may find it offensive for a meal. In my own place; Langtang in Nigeria, people eat dog but i dont, i still dont find it offensive to see people eating it simply because i dont.

    China should be proud of it and stop this cosmetic pretence. They should have alternatives which is very necessary.

  54. 55 Syed Hasan Turab
    July 15, 2008 at 20:25

    Accoding to histry & experience dog is a most loyelliest frind of master even master’s careless handling will not change his loyality. With due respect submitted to loyality eaters.

  55. 56 steve
    July 15, 2008 at 20:38

    For the people that eat dogs, do you consider it karma when a dog bites a person? And if a Dog bite a person, should the dog be killed, despite apparently a lot more people bite dogs (by eating them) than dogs that bite people? I mean, golden rule.

  56. 57 Syed Hasan Turab
    July 15, 2008 at 22:28

    Steve,
    You are politicalising te dog issue in real journalism, if we read a news that “dog bit a person” will be understand a normal news, on the other hand if you presant the same news that “Person bit a dog” will attract the readers more, this is what journalism is all about.
    I have a respect for every one.

  57. 58 Confucius
    July 15, 2008 at 22:31

    Confucius say: “You won’t get fat from eating Chinese food, but you might get a little husky.”

    The Hairless Chinese Crested can get pretty ugly. On a stick, it just turns my stomach.

    But yes, they are being overly sensitive. On the other hand, a lot of people from around the world will be there, and not all of them have had the opportunity to learn Chinese. They may not be able to read the menus, and consequently, might end up eating dog meat. In some cases, eating dog meat is against their morals. In some cases, it’s against their religions.

    It might be different if the menu choices were called “Shih-Tzu Szechuan” or “Chow Chow Mein” or even a “PuPu Poodle Platter”. The best way you can prevent someone from accidentally ordering “Pug Drop Soup” and “Pekingnese Duck” isn’t by teaching someone the language, but by simply taking it off the menu for a month while the Olympics are being held there.

    Taking the dog for a wok might be common in parts of China, but I believe it is banned in Hong Kong. However, China is estimated to go through about 300,000 puppies annually.

    Personally, I think I might like to try Shish-koku-babs, but since that isn’t what it would be called on the menu, I’d have no way of knowing how to order it.

  58. July 16, 2008 at 00:42

    No Dog means no Chop sticks, Let’s take our own in Preparation for the political Prisoner likely to be served in Fido’s stead.

  59. 60 hamza
    July 16, 2008 at 00:58

    Muslims don’t eat dog meat, pork etc. because they are unhealty…it’s very logical, isn’t it?

  60. 61 Karmic reaction
    July 17, 2008 at 19:27

    @ Whoever said dogs are unhealthy
    You are disillusioned. All meats are unhealthy if dog and pig meat are unhealthy.

    @ Whoever said dogs are intelligent and should not be eaten
    You haven’t seen the intelligence of Cows and Pigs. They are equally or even more intelligent than dogs for that matter. I have seen cows that could open gate locks, turn taps to get water, cows which get sad and depressed for days together when its guardian (human) dies. I have heard even stranger and unbelievable stories from other people who had a cow in their backyards. Of course you wouldn’t know it because you are not from a country where cows have freedom or right to live.

    Frankly, dogs should not be eaten either. I am not supporting it. I do not support cow-eating or even chicken-eating. (Yes I am a fanatic vegetarian). I just want some almost-sad people to look around and see the bigger picture.

  61. 62 hamza
    July 24, 2008 at 10:07

    you said that cows are more intelligent than dogs…
    I don’t agree with you because dogs are very easy to educate and make them do what you say…

    I advise you to search about what you say and about the bad effect of pig meat to human body.
    In my opinion we shouldn’t eat what we found.
    we are to be unlike animals…

  62. 63 Mike
    July 25, 2008 at 19:42

    HELLO??????????????????

    For anyone who agrees w/eating dog meat.

    Is it acceptable to ( skin dogs alive ????????????)

    Is it acceptable to ( boil cats alive ?????????????)

    That is what they do. That is a fact.

    Do some research.

    OH – – and some of the dogs use to be pets that are stolen.

    It’s a fact – Do the research.

  63. 64 marissa
    July 29, 2008 at 20:48

    eating dog meat is just grotesque. The thought of this sickens me

  64. 65 Amanda Porter
    August 4, 2008 at 00:02

    I have just read through the various comments here and almost all seem to be in favour of dog eating in China. I find this repulsive however I agree that it is not our place to dictate to another country their cultures when we eat meat ourselves here which other countries would class as taboo but when you read of the extreme torture, pain and distress that dogs (“man’s best friend”) cats, etc. are put through in China in the belief that terror and pain makes the meat more fresh and sweet or the medicine more potent I would hope that most of you would agree that it is totally and completely unnecessarily barbaric. Please read through the many articles you can find on the internet as to how these animals are tortured and eventually killed. In the U.K. we have laws governing the humane slaughter of livestock. These laws should be imposed on every country so that no living creature should suffer for us the way that these poor animals are.

  65. August 20, 2008 at 13:06

    I personally worry about meat in all our world, i do eat it but i also now its bad for my carbon footprint all meat is different in every country I don’t want to eat Horse but the French do as they do snails ,,I hope in time the Chines will learn a better way to eat there choice of meat i have 3 dogs 4 cats and each is my baby, but i am personally more concerned with HUMAN RIGHTS in China i don’t know if i am spelling this correct but Chines prisons [TH LOUGAI] is more important they are treated worst than any animal . American prisoners on Cuba is also a serious problem I think we have to start with how humans are treated before any country will care about there food supply, hunger and no choice make us all do things we wish we did not have to,. PEACE is first.

  66. 67 The_African
    August 31, 2008 at 19:40

    I would not eat dog meat but I wouldn’t eat cow meat, pig meat, chicken meat or human meat either. Anyone who is willing to eat cows and pigs but not dogs is being hypocritical. All mammals and birds are sentient, why should some species be valued more than others?

    I do eat fish and some invertebrate seafood only because they lack a true cerebral cortex so it’s highly unlikely that they are sentient. If I ever find out otherwise, I’ll cut that out of my diet as well!

  67. 68 Suzanne
    September 16, 2008 at 13:45

    There will always be people who have no empathy with fellow creatures and like to do things which go against the grain to appear different. Yet the old chestnut argument of meat is meat just does not work – humans are flesh too so where do you take that ridiculous argument from there! One has to be careful of pushing boundaries too far so as to eliminate them altogether. That many Chinese and Koreans (and of course a large percentage love dogs and cats as pets) act in barbaric ways – bludgeoning dogs to death, boiling cats alive, flaying dogs and cats alive – claiming it to be some quaint part of ‘culture’ (a contradiction in terms if ever there was one!)just isn’t acceptable. It insults our intelligence when they seeks big business with the rest of the World and all the perks that brings yet on the other hand reserve the right to act like barbarians – Suzanne.

  68. 69 Callum101
    March 2, 2009 at 04:20

    I can see both sides to this argument, But me personally, would eat dog, cat, any animal in the world. Because to me it’s just meat. If we were back in the stone age or didn’t have the technology or freedom of speak, that we today, we would still be eating anything and everything that we could hunt. I wouldn’t eat a household pet, because they are bred for family enjoyment. But in countries where they sell dog, they are bred for eating, just like cows, chickens and pigs are in the U.K.

    They are just, at the end of the day, meat.
    I am going on holiday soon to Beijing to eat dog, and cats and what ever they sell that is illegal here in the U.K.

  69. March 3, 2009 at 00:34

    If you choose to deprive cows, cattle, Kangaroos, rabbits and so on of their freedom, life, butcher them, gut them, chop their dead bodies up and cook them, eat them- You’ve made your choice. You’re a meat eater. If as a meat (or fish eater) you cry foul about dog eating, it’s called Hypocrisy.

    By the way, I’m a hypocrite too.

  70. 71 sam
    June 19, 2009 at 12:51

    well personally i find ating cats and dogs disgusting.not based on their intelligence but simply the fact that this animals trust man .they are essentially companion animals and i will never eat such an animal.i watched a video long ago about the south korean treatment of cats and dogs.
    they trust man right to the point they are hanged and beaten and i watched a dog look at its “owner” and stare just like i seen a beaten boy look at his father(not i work in the health sector).
    Now even if you do not have that sort of heart to feel when something happens like that do not use the arguement of cows and sheep as an arguement.This animals are killed in the most humane way not boiled alive like cats are in S.korea or dogs hanged and beaten as in guess where S.Korea.
    If you must eat this animals at least slaughter them humanly and give them a reasonable life when alive.
    Personally i do not buy S.korean items at all.And even when my older brother daughter got a licence and they wanted to get her a brand new KIA i opposed it and added the extra for a fiat.
    And any country who openly beat their food to death deserves the same boycott.

  71. 72 Gerald
    August 6, 2009 at 18:41

    Most people responding to this are pretty stupid (sorry for saying that but its what i see) You talk about how its wrong to eat dogs and cats yet americas kills millions of dog and cats every year because no one wants them. If i was to collect these animals, kill them myself, then process them and send them to starving countries youd say im some evil sick person. Id rather see some starving person eat the dog or cat than its body be burned up or buried somewhere. They are animals pure and simple. Most animals, if you raise it from a baby will become tame and like to hang around you. thats a fact so stop acting like dog and cats are special. An example is to look at regular dogs and cats that have grown up wild. they do not trust humans one bit. dogs and cats people keep as pets are brainwashed to like you and thats it.

  72. October 21, 2009 at 13:25

    Being a dog lover, I wouldn’t dare eat dog meat. I would rather prefer to eat animals that are in the kosher list but I’m not a Jew. For what reason? Well it’s more on health. I’d rather stick to eating beef, pork, chicken and poultry as meat because they’re not animals you get emotionally attached to.

  73. 74 Gerald
    November 1, 2009 at 02:13

    I like trying different foods and I would like to try dog meat once. I don’t know if I’d like it or not. I’m just curious. I fancy cats more than dogs as pets so eating dog meat wouldn’t really bother me. I mean I don’t believe a giant hand is going to come from out of the sky and smack me for eating dog meat.

  74. 75 Michele
    November 11, 2009 at 14:21

    I can’t help but notice all the comment that state it is OK to eat a dog due to “culture” and/or “diversity”.

    We cannot go on using culture/diversitly as an excuse for cruelty. During World War II Germany felt it was acceptable to murder Jews to sustain their culture.

    Eating a dog is wrong. Please do not use “culture” as an excuse.

    Let me also state that China use to worship the Pekinese dog. And now they torture and eat them? (Please note that there truly ARE animal welfare groups in China, Korea and Vietnam trying to abolish this disgusting, subhuman practice).


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