Should the MDC do a deal with Mugabe?

The Movement for Democratic Change has announced their version of the election results in Zimbabwe. At a news conference they claimed that their candidate Morgan Tsvangirai gained 50.3 per cent of the vote thus avoiding the need for a run-off vote. It says President Robert Mugabe got 43.8 per cent of the total vote and the independent Simba Makoni got 6 per cent……

But official results have yet to be declared. Reports in the state-run Herald newspaper have predicted a run-off, saying that neither President Robert Mugabe nor his main challenger have won a majority.

While the stalemate continues we’re asking on today’s programme should the MDC strike a deal with Mugabe? If so, what should the terms of that deal be? Or should Mugabe be made to face trial for alleged torture and human rights abuses? Or is the priority to ensure the results of the Presidential election are adhered to?

I’d be interested to get your thoughts on this article in the Times Newspaper in the UK – which suggests any deal is likely to be an “African solution to an African problem”

75 Responses to “Should the MDC do a deal with Mugabe?”

  1. 1 Gretchen Eldrich
    April 2, 2008 at 14:04

    absolutely not. He should be out. And without everyone taking out their machetes and hacking each other to death (what is Africa’s deal anyway??)

    April 2, 2008 at 14:30

    Hi BBC,
    The MDC should strike a deal with Mugabe for the seek of peace.
    They should agreed for run-off election.

  3. April 2, 2008 at 14:54

    In the event the MDC wins the election it remains to be seen if Mr. Mugabe will stepped down, in my opinion he will do anything he can to retain power. Zimbabwe was a thriving country before he became president now its in ruination. The question what sort of deal should be done with the MDC?, In my opinion he should be made to leave the country for ever. However depending on the culture of the people of Zimbabwe they will decide in the way thats suitable to both.

  4. 4 Tamuno, Godpower
    April 2, 2008 at 15:09

    I, suggest that Mugabe should be tried and not to hold any talks with the opposition party because he(Mugabe) has commited against HUMANITARIAN RULE. I wonder why an International Humanitarian Law is established and leaders who go contrary should not be tried.

    Godpower, Tamunoeribo-ofori,
    Rivers State Polytechnic,

  5. 5 Alex
    April 2, 2008 at 15:15

    There’s just no deal to make before electral officials declare the winner. There is an electoral commission in Zimbabwe so I don’t understand why Tsavingirai, or even Mugabe for that matter, needs to make parallel announcements. I’m kenyan and I live in Kenya. Not very long ago I witnessed what happened as a result of these unofficial announcements so let Zimbabweans wait a little while for the official tallies. Let whoever wins take the seat and forget about these so-called deals. They are not doing us much good here.

    Trial for alleged torture should only be executed with evidence for unwarranted assault. Those who heckle police and the military should not allege torture.

  6. 6 Will Rhodes
    April 2, 2008 at 15:33


  7. 7 gary
    April 2, 2008 at 15:39

    Hello All,
    The best “deal” to do with Mugabe and his ministers would be to place them under arrest until they divulge the codes for all their secret accounts. Come to think of it, this would be the best thing to do with most politicians.

  8. 8 Dolapo Aina
    April 2, 2008 at 15:55

    The elections’ results in Zimbabwe must be announced. It doesn’t augur well for the stability of the country if the results are not totally announced and both political parties reach for a settlement. It would be ridiculous on the part of MDC due to the fact that they would be on the defensive
    Mugabe should accept that the people have spoken and there is no way the results of the elections can be different from those s posted outside polling booths
    I feel Mugabe is scared of stepping down because he doesn’t know any other life outside the presidential palace. Also due to the economic misappropriation of the Zimbabwean economy.
    Mugabe shouldn’t force the opposition to a run off and the opposition shouldn’t accept one but they should take things easy because the ruling party is searching for the slightest political blunder from the opposition.
    Dolapo Aina
    Lagos, Nigeria

  9. 9 mahamed geeljire
    April 2, 2008 at 16:02

    my name is geeljire regular listener in somaliland.
    Iam sure that mdc has won the election of zimbabwe,so rebet mogabe shame and shame, you were in the power since the country gained the indepedence,so please give the chance for the other citezens

    mahamed geeljire

  10. 10 mohammed ali
    April 2, 2008 at 16:03

    There is nothing about deal in this situation. Let us stop promoting tyranny and dictatorship in Africa. If the one time Freedom Fighter, Robert Mugabe looses the presidential election, let him turn over power smoothly. To suggest that the opposition should go into a deal with Mr. Mugabe means that he has won the elections but should step down because he has been in power for over two decades and a half.

  11. 11 Arnaud ntirenganya Emmanuel
    April 2, 2008 at 16:10

    Should the MDC do a deal with Mugabe?
    Morgan Tsvangirai accepting the deal with Mr. Mugabe is accepting Mr. Mugabe influence in next Zimbabwe’s governance. Zimbabwe needs a great change, therefore there is no need for Morgan Tsvangirai having a deal with Mr. Mugabe. If Mr. Mugabe succeeds to corrupt MDC some of his government members are going to remain in power with same Mugabe’s ideology. Mugabe should accept defeat and MDC rules Zimbabwe. I would like to end congratulating all Zimbabweans who loved the change and encouraging all Africans to copy the same example because Africa as whole needs a great change

  12. 12 mahamed geeljire
    April 2, 2008 at 16:15

    my name is geeljire regular listenerin somaliland,
    Iam sure that MDC has won the election of zimbabwe,so robert mogabi shame and shame,you were in the power sice the country gained indepedence,so please give the chance for the other citezens of zimbabwe
    thank you

    mahamed geeljire ,somailand,

  13. 13 Nick
    April 2, 2008 at 16:28

    Personally, I would do a deal to get my candidate in office, and then let the international community deal with his war crimes. The most important thing is the people who can be helped now. Nobody can go back and correct what he has done, but the MDC can give their country a future. I know what he has done is not excusable (even the alleged cannibalism), but the country needs to be thinking ahead not behind.

  14. April 2, 2008 at 16:30

    Should Obama do a deal with Hillary…sounds crazy doesn’t it. There are no deals in a democratic election. In Zimbabwe’s future I would like to see a form of democra-tribalist government.

  15. April 2, 2008 at 16:42

    Hi there, am very glad to be on the discusion board again simply because the world seems to be eyeing on president Robert Mugabe alone than morgan the world favorite candidate so far ,it irritated me when i heard of a negative side of our hero ,son of Africa,mr mugabe and am stressed by the word i heard from the media that mugabe must quit and to me he had done alot to the people of Zimbabwe tham morgan ,my problem is not that ZANU PF AND MDC should’t go for deal i rather suggest that morgan and mugabe are Africans ,my question to the world is that what is your problem in the Affair of Zimbabwe leaving behind some other problems like global warming are there but Zimbabewe seems to be crucial or do you have any other logic apart from what is taking place in the world ?
    also i w ould be grateful to hear any one of them have won without problems like the musics of last months in Kenya ,as wellas somalia,and Darfur please my polite message is to leave Zimbabwe for SADC to solve their issue and i
    wish the world successful decision on Zimbabwe,

  16. April 2, 2008 at 16:54

    The elections’ results in Zimbabwe must be announced. It doesn’t augur well for the stability of the country if the results are not totally announced and both political parties reach for a settlement. It would be ridiculous on the part of MDC due to the fact that they would be on the defensive
    Mugabe should accept that the people have spoken and there is no way the results of the elections can be different from those s posted outside polling booths. I feel Mugabe is scared of stepping down because he doesn’t know any other life outside the presidential palace. Also due to the economic misappropriation of the Zimbabwean economy. Mugabe shouldn’t force the opposition to a run off and the opposition shouldn’t accept one but they should take things easy because the ruling party is searching for the slightest political blunder from the opposition.

    Lagos, Nigeria

  17. April 2, 2008 at 16:57

    The MDC leader does not need any deal with Mugabe. The credibility of the electoral commission is in doubt. Mugabe is just heartless and selfish. He wants to be the longers servant of Zimbabwe. We wish him well. Morgan Tsvangerai should not fight with him and make innocent poeple die. Morgan you are the leader for the generation but do not give the lands to the americans make life better for your poeple.

    youth leader

  18. April 2, 2008 at 16:58

    Ideally I think the MDC should not do a deal with ZANU PF. This is because if it’s proven that MDC has won a majority vote. Then it’s a democratically prudent thing to allow them to rule. After all for how long will we continue having to resort to “deals in political diuress” setting a precedent for voting settlement in Africa. I live in Kenya and even though we are happy to have peace now,it still leaves us with a bitter taste in the mouth that lack of political maturity has resorted us to such a settlement.Now the precedent seems to be followed in Zimbabwe. It’s now an unfortunate effective tool being used by sore political losers.

    James in Kenya

  19. 19 Trent West
    April 2, 2008 at 16:59

    No, I think any deal with Mugabe will leave him with some power or control. If not over the presidency but Zanu-PF, and this to me is unacceptable. Zimbabwe needs a clear way forward with Mugabe. The only thing the opposition should discuss with Mugabe is where does he want his picture collection to be sent.

  20. April 2, 2008 at 17:04

    yes,i think it cannot be out of place for mr morgan Tsvangirai to negotiate a deal with mr mugabe after declaration of the presidential elections by ZEC.
    After all zimbabwe is for all zimbabweans there4 any other thing including striking a political deal can be welcomed if it can be a recipe for peace and stability.
    The zimbabwean nation is larger than both mugabe and morgan,so if striking a political deal can avert the kenyan recent political experience,for goodness sake so be it.

  21. April 2, 2008 at 17:10

    Robert Mugabe is clearly acting out now because of the blatant silence and hypocrisy being displayed by many African leaders especially south Africa and president Thabo Mbeki in particular. The ANC must remember that all the gains made by the liberation fighters to win back freedom from colonialism and imperialism are being systematically eroded by the heinos crimes of the Zanu pf and Mugabe in Zimbabwae. It is now time for the civilized world to isolate this dictator and enforce severe sanctions against his regime and of course never recognize it. If all that fails, the African union with the backing of the united nations, should send in troops to remove Mugabe from power and put him and his henchmen on trial for crimes against humanity.


  22. 22 PETER AMADI
    April 2, 2008 at 17:32

    Ordinarily, I would not subscribe to any attempt to do a deal with Mugabe, because He has refused to do any deal with anybody all these while he has been messing up Zimbabwe’s Economy and Polity.
    However,considering what happened in Kenya, and knowing my brothers in Africa, any deal that will make for a slow exit of Mugabe should be done, and then they should deal with him fairly but decisively once he is out of real power.
    Mugabe is a disappointment to leadership, even in Africa where it has a pseudo meaning.
    The state of Zimbabwe under Mugabe has made a place like Nigeria, with our infrastructural and corruption issues look like paradise.

  23. 23 Ian
    April 2, 2008 at 17:33

    In all this debate about whether or not Mugabe has lost of won everyone seems to have forgotten that more than 3 million of us (adults) living outside of the country ( and no doubt opposing him) have been denied our right to vote.Can you imagine the defeat he would really suffer if we had been?.

  24. April 2, 2008 at 17:34

    What will an MDC government mean for black and white expatriots?

    Adam in Portland, USA

  25. April 2, 2008 at 17:38

    My message to Mugabi, is respect the will of the people and retire peacefully & let Zimbabweans decide their future.

    Idriss in Ghana

  26. 26 Shado
    April 2, 2008 at 17:40

    No deal should be made with or for Bob, he should be brought to justice for all his criming beginning with those in early eighties

    Shado (Seattle, Washington)

  27. April 2, 2008 at 17:48

    Besides all the rigging in the remote rural areas. What about the 3 million of us (adults) living outside of the country who were denied our right to vote. Imagine the real defeat he would of suffered had we been permitted to vote?

    Ian in Bulgaria

  28. April 2, 2008 at 17:48

    If the guest who insists on yelling can’t calm down and talk rationally, and STOP YELLING, please cut him off. I want to hear a rational, calm discussion, but instead I have no better understanding of what they’re talking about due to the SHOUTING GUEST! Please just cut these people off if they can’t have a civil discussion. Does he not realize his shouting simply makes people turn off or decide they don’t want to hear what he has to say?

    Please – have some way of dealing with the YELLING GUESTS. And Roz could tone it down a bit too. Cheers, Wink

  29. April 2, 2008 at 17:51

    Please, turn off the microphone of the SHOUTING GUEST. I don’t care what he has to say at all, whether or not he has anything worth saying. He’s made today’s show almost intolerable.

  30. 30 Tobin in USA
    April 2, 2008 at 17:54

    The only deal Mugabi will ever make is the one that will leave him in power. As long as the votes are counted in behind closed doors no one will know the true out come of these elections.

  31. April 2, 2008 at 18:05

    We always pretend to be Pius. But all are subject to errors, even Mugabe. But one thing is clear. It is the stupid man who learns from his own mistakes, the wise learns from those of others. The strange and in incomplete justice meted on Sadam and his cronies in Iraq was not a solution but have heightened suspicions and tension.
    But on the other hand, Tutu’s Truth and Reconciliation scheme in South Africa is a novelty to be copied by all nations going through this kind of governance.


  32. 32 Makonnen
    April 2, 2008 at 18:06

    Lets not forget our past. As a member of the African diaspora, I know Africans can solve Africa’s problems. It is Mugabi who needs to give his people a chance. The people then need to not sell themselves and their country short. The reality is, outsiders don’t have their interest at heart.

  33. April 2, 2008 at 18:09

    We Africans are tired with mediations between ruling and opposition parties. Zimbabwean election commission should kindly tell the world who won at the presidential election!

    Kabir in Nigeria

  34. April 2, 2008 at 18:11

    Tell Mugabe to go home and rest at his farm and he should put this into his mind and head: “You may fool people sometime but not all the time.”

    Chawezi Phiri

  35. April 2, 2008 at 18:15

    I hope Zimbabweans can see sense and make a deal before its too late. Look at the cost my country has paid.

    George from Kibera in Kenya

  36. April 2, 2008 at 18:17

    We always pretend to be Pius. But we are all are subject to errors, even Mugabe.
    The strange and in incomplete justice meted out on Saddam and his cronies in Iraq was not a solution but have heightened suspicions and tension. But on the other hand, Tutu’s Truth and Reconciliation scheme in South Africa is a novelty to be copied by all nations going through this kind of governance.


  37. 37 Tricia
    April 2, 2008 at 18:17

    No. No deal. Any kind of bargaining makes a mockery of constitutional law and the rights of the voters.

  38. April 2, 2008 at 18:19

    Immunity will perpetuate impunity. Rogue leaders must begin to pay.

    John in Uganda

  39. April 2, 2008 at 18:20

    My greatest fear is that, if the opposition took over,they will become a western puppet government.

    Hafizu in Nigeria

  40. 40 Thomas Murray
    April 2, 2008 at 18:24

    And no, if they won, the MDC should not do a deal with Mugabe.

    He’s 82. Let him go.

    –Regards. Louisville, Kentucky, US.

  41. April 2, 2008 at 18:24

    Robert Mugabe should be allowed to go into exile and let the winner of the election take over power. What possible use could he be to Zimbabwe?

    Dalhat in Nigeria

  42. April 2, 2008 at 18:26

    Father Robert Mugabe..you have done your part. You should leave leave the rest with those who think that they can do better than you. Sooner or later you will be missed.

    Joshua in Liberia

  43. April 2, 2008 at 18:30

    Political deal like Kenyas kill democracy in Africa. In kenyas case the 3 main presidential rivals are in government: Kibaki – president, Odinga – prime minister, Kalonzo – vice president. We don’t even have an opposition in parliament.

    Mukabane, Nairobi-Kenya

  44. April 2, 2008 at 18:35

    Mugabe time is up…He should step down honourably in order to avoid the wrath of his people.

    Ibadan in Nigeria

  45. April 2, 2008 at 18:36

    There is only one thing that Mugabe should do; STEP DOWN!! Kamuzu did just that, losers do that. why a deal when no results are known?

    Peter in Malawi

  46. April 2, 2008 at 18:38

    For goodness sake Africans need to understand that leaders are elected to serve and should not be above the law..zimbabwe needs to get back on track under credible leadership that can deliver peace, development and democracy. Deals for aging misguided dictators should not be an option, no way!

    Sauda in Dar Es Salaam, Tanzania

  47. April 2, 2008 at 18:40

    Mugabe must be answerable, just as much as any other citizen, he wasn’t 84 when he committed the atrocities.

    Alfred in Maputo

  48. April 2, 2008 at 18:41

    No deal should be made. Mugabe should accept defeat with respect. We want a good neighbouring country.

    Jamal from Malawi

  49. 49 Daniel Mutale
    April 2, 2008 at 18:42

    There are demons that try to create confusion in Africa and we need to fight them….How can’t Mugabe see that he served his term and time and its time to let go. Zim has enough Leadership besides Mugabe who can lead the country…Zim needs restoration and it wont come through Mugabe. MUGABE LET THE PEOPLE GO!

    Daniel Mutale, Lusaka Zambia

  50. April 2, 2008 at 18:43

    If Mugabe could have listen to people like Lucky Dube that ” be good to the people on your way up because you will meet them on your down” he could not be afraid to concede defeat by now. I only wish him good luck to join Charles Taylor.

    Kamanda in Uganda

  51. April 2, 2008 at 18:43

    Any deal to get rid of Mugabe quickly. Then get on with rebuilding the country and change the constitution to make a maximum of two terms in power

    Tony in South Africa

  52. April 2, 2008 at 18:44

    I think MDC should respect the will of the people. Mugabe has failed,nothing can be learnt from him now.

    Gerald Yasin

  53. 53 Daniel Mutale
    April 2, 2008 at 18:46

    There is something wrong in Africa and we need liberation….How can’t Mugabe see that he served his term and time and its time to let go. Zim has enough Leadership besides Mugabe who can lead the country…Zim needs restoration and it wont come through Mugabe. MUGABE LET THE PEOPLE GO!

    Daniel Mutale, Lusaka Zambia

  54. April 2, 2008 at 18:46

    The opposition party should not make a any deal with Mugabe, Mugabe should just step aside.

    Benji in Nigeria

  55. 55 Daniel Mutale
    April 2, 2008 at 18:48

    No deal should be struck with Mugabe because his term is over….Handover the mantle without struggling.

    Daniel Mutale, Lusaka, Zambia

  56. April 2, 2008 at 18:50

    Whether or not there is a deal in Zimbabwe, ultimately rest on whether AU Heads of States and Government will be willing to risk sacrificing one of their own.

    A. N NDEN, Nigeria

  57. April 2, 2008 at 18:51

    The reported talks between ZANU PF and MDC is really showing how bad is dimocracy in Africa. Why not allow the election result to be made public?

    Alhajim in Nigeria.

  58. April 2, 2008 at 18:52

    Mugabe must go. He has devstated the country let Tsvangerai comes in wth new blood.

    Peterson in Malawi

  59. April 2, 2008 at 18:53

    The failure of Africa to develop is because we choose to live in the past and pretend to be religious yet not forgiving. Let zims move forward and not bay for blood.


  60. April 2, 2008 at 18:54

    The colonialists have regained power because the Zimbabwen electorate refused to think, very sad time indeed.

    Mulenga, Zambia

  61. April 2, 2008 at 18:54

    Mr. Mugabe please emmulate Fidel Castro and allow the people of Zimbabwe to have a new leader.

    Nura Sharrbe,Nigeria

  62. April 2, 2008 at 18:55

    Robert Mugabe, you better step down to bring peace to Zimbabwe & boost agriculture to the country.

    Abba in Nigeria

  63. April 2, 2008 at 18:56

    No negotiations..Mugabe had his time.


  64. April 2, 2008 at 18:58

    There should be no negotiations with Mugabe, he is irrelevant and tired. Zimbabwe does not need him and he should therefor quit now.

    JB from Kampala.

  65. April 2, 2008 at 19:28

    For BBC WHYS:

    I am following the events of Zimbabwe. There can be no power sharing if ZANU-PF lost its control of Parliament. While Zimbabwe is an internal affair, Mugabe cannot hold on to power at the present rate.

    I would also like to add that the Ex Communist Dictator of Ethiopia Mengistu Haile Mariam is in Zimbabwe after being granted asylum by Mugabe in 1991.

    If Mugabe wants a face saving deal, he would hand over Mengistu to an International Court [he is wanted for genocide and crimes against humanity] and leave Zimbabwe.

  66. 66 Virginia Davis
    April 2, 2008 at 21:00

    I trust that there will soon be a new day in Zimbabwe in government. This country has come to great grief during the latter part of Mugabe’s rule – I feel it is time for his defeat and departure.

    I find it heartening that most of these posts are from people in Africa.

    As for the rather rude remark about Kenya and the killing with machetes, what is about we Americans and our killings with guns?

    Virginia in Portland, Oregon

  67. 67 Mark Chapman from UK
    April 2, 2008 at 21:06

    Congratulations Morgan & Your team – well done
    Please do not do a deal with the previous regime – they have nothing to contribute to Zimbabwe.
    They also had 28 years to show their ability and were found out to be totally useless. Now let them leave to a special detention centre until a Truth & Reconciliation Tribunal can be set up to help heal the wounds of all the people.

    Please let the world get together to help the country get set up & back on the path to prosperity. Please can the leaders like Mr Bush & Mr Brown give more than money to re-build the infrastructure … please send all necessary equipment & infrastructure to resurrect the country’s economy and People. We need to have Hospitals, Schools, Government Infrastructure, Electricity infrastructure (Kariba Dam), Farms & Mining set up again to re-build our shattered country.

    We must look to the future … and help in every way we can to overcome the past 28 years of destruction … particularly to help the people who are in dire need of assistance

    Pambere Zimbabwe

  68. April 3, 2008 at 02:31

    Whether MDC or president Mugabe win the election Zimbabwe will still be one of Afirca continant therefore, Zimbabwe people and leaders to see how Norman(UK) and Washington plus NATO have attack Zimbabwe economically, politiclly inorder to creat the political instability in Zimbabwe. The Washington through NATO had confused and stir election in Kenya last view months with aim to destroy Kenya record of peaceful Island in East Afirca.Above all Niether president Mugabe has fly airforce, Military Ships, tanks in Europe, Asia and America nor he used orange agent, atomic bomb against any nations both in Afirca and international.But this moster washington and her allies who committed and commting these international criminal should be brought to justice, As people are now living many are dying because of washington and her allies of global instabilities.It now to Zimbabwe and Afirca people to go deep in their studies and find how is these all instability coming form?Does it coming from some leaders who are been bribe by washington and NATO to creat some instability to their neighbouring country like Ethopia was sponsurs to attack her nieghtbour Somalia?

  69. 69 Md.Nasim
    April 3, 2008 at 03:45

    Hi everybody,
    In my notion about this matter I’ll say that,in Zimbabwe he’s created such a
    financial crisis which is really dangerous for a nation.That’s why I think he ought
    to leave his position as soon as possible.

  70. 70 parth guragain
    April 3, 2008 at 07:17

    no,MDC shouldnot break a deal with mugabe becoz a deal will land up in a further crisis.it will give message that public verdict has not been respected.if MDC think that they have got majority of vote in election they should fight for their rights

  71. April 3, 2008 at 09:56

    Mr. Mugabe, you and members of the ZANU PF will stand trial for crimes against humanity, and all that you took away from us. I hope you suffer the same fate as Saddam Hussein !!

  72. 72 John in Germany
    April 3, 2008 at 11:56

    Why negotiate with a man that was not willing to listen to anything, he would not have listened to his conscience, if he had had one.
    He has lost in many ways than one, the publishing of the election results at the voting locations has restricted the possibilities of fiddling the results. The delay in publishing did not help him or his cronies to do anything negative. Why should the winners talk to him?.
    The old man has had it, and he should see its time to go, did he ever remove anyone with dignity?. Did he ever consider anything else except blaming everyone else as ZIMNBABWE was dragged into ruin by him and his Party?.
    He did not have the decency to admit his failures, and blamed long gone colonials for the downfall of the modern Zimbabwe.
    I wonder who would want him, does anyone know out there know?

    It can only be hoped that the loser’s do not turn to violence to try and win, if they do the winners are on there own, i fear that no other country has the guts to help. There is nothing left to to fight for except debts, and a dead economy. A a civil war would be a disaster. (A reason to talk maybe?.).

    Zimbabweans think of yourselves and your family’s, stay peaceful, and support the new age, don’t let yourselves be agitated into fighting. You wont be fighting for yourselves but for people that don’t give a dam for you, and you problems.

    May all of your gods be with you, and guide you into a happy and peaceful future.

    John in Germany

  73. 73 John in Germany.
    April 4, 2008 at 10:22

    Sorry Zimbabwe.

    No Peace, No future,. Opposition offices searched, two Journalists arrested what’s to come?. Can anyone predict?.

    My be it was to much to expect that the old man shows a bit of decency. It is only to be hoped that the bleating from the west, can change into concrete action if needed. AND IT WILL BE NEEDED.

    God bless
    John in Germany

  74. 74 Shakhoor Rehman
    April 5, 2008 at 11:58

    Yes definitely. Tweedledum and Tweedledee are natural partners and have probably done one covertly already. They have a recent precedent : their cousins in Kenya. Nothing will change for ordinary Zimbabweans or Kenyans.

  75. 75 m cas
    June 13, 2008 at 22:28

    It makes you wonder if zimbabwe had oil like Iraq does, do you think the US and UK would already have sent troops to liberate the country? what good is NATO and the UN or whatever if they dont step in to situations like this.. the Zimbabwe people spoke, Mugabe lost the election now he wont leave so we should be removing him! with force if neccesary.

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