Tuesday 4 March 2008 is the day that I’m dubbing Super Tuesday The Second. Ohio and Texas are both hosting primaries for the Democratic primaries, and if you believe the pundits it’s make or break for Hillary in her battle with Barack.
Now thanks to WCPN in Cleveland, Ohio, there’s a fair few Ohioans who tune to WHYS. Between now and March 4 I’d be interested to hear who you’re shaping up to support and why. So please start with the headline of the post and we’ll read on with interest.
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There are a bazillion reason why I am not voting for Hillary. To my delight I have kind of liked Barack since his introduction. First I addresses on my blog this subject in a post titled Why Not Hillary? One Word: Corruption. The jest of the post sites A) for as long as I have been a tax paying voter I have been under the rule of either the Clintons or the Bushes. I have despised each of them worse then the last. Spending your whole life in Washington and calling it “experience” is like being a career criminal makes you experience in law. Secondly, the Clintons have had so many fraud and scandals just outside the reach of them that it just starts to look suspicious. Also, one of the bills she championed that I saw her speak about was her vote to allow my 14 yr. old daughter to get taken out of this state by somebody I don’t know to another state to get a medical procedure that can be life threatening with out my knowledge or consent. The law that let minors get transported out of state to circumvent the laws that the people of my state voted on is a slap in the face of democracy. Lastly, anybody who voted for this war debacle and didn’t read the intelligence report and realize they were getting bamboozled is purely incompetent. Anybody who voted to give the president an unadulterated blank check has shown noting but the poorest of judgment.
In the favor of Barak Hussein Obama is his lack of time in Washington is an advantage. Not taking millions of dollars from lobbiest and corporations for his campaign tells me that he is not being obligated to return favors. No company spends millions of dollars just for the “principle” of it. Also, our biggest advasaries right now are from Middle Eastern countries with mostly Muslim rulers. While Obama is not a Muslim, they will sooner relate and be more at ease with a man who has a recognizable name then a woman who doesn’t. They have very little respect for women over there as it is. Who do you think they will be more forthcoming and feel more bound to their agreements with? I would say Barack Hussein. Lastly, a man with black lineage would be a slap in the face of all the naysayers who have been touting “America will never elect a black man.”
If it wasn’t going to be so close, I would jump ship and go vote for the best candidate running. That being Ron Paul. I was hoping the Democrats would have it sorted out by the time it got to Ohio. But alas, we can’t afford to waste a vote. In the end the policies of the Democrats are going to do little if not make the economy worse. In fact the only thing worse then some of their proposals would be to continue to hemorrhage money by not only stay, but to send more troops to Iraq. That would take a level of economic ignorance that has no parallel.
There is no question that my family will vote for Obama. If for some reason Obama does not get the Democratic nomination, I will NOT vote for Hillary Clinton. I am a woman and I am a feminist and yet Hillary does not represent me. She does represent part of the old guard, the establishment. More of the same. This country needs a change. TWe need leadership we can be proud of. We do need charisma, we do need hope, we need vision, and we need someone who can unite us. That someone is Barack Obama.
I’m proud to say I didn’t vote in the VA primary last Tuesday (I was in germany anyways) and I will not vote in the general election. Why? Because all politicians are mentally ill. They are narcissists. They are totally self serving, and because they are narcissists (please google narcissistic personality disorder and histrionic) they lack consciences, are completely self absorbed, and will say anything to get what they want. So you have a choice between several narcissists. Wow. That people get “passionate” over any of these self serving liars completely astounds me. I guess it makes people feel somehow relevant or important if they have some kind of impact in getting some narcissist into power. So I cannot wait to not have to go into work on that day in November, and not vote. They day when mentally ill people (do you think these people would run for office if say media coverage were forbidden? no pictures allowed of them? They would go nuts, because they crave the attention. ) are no longer running for office is the day I’ll vote again. Until then, to all of your people who are actually going to vote, make sure to think hard about which narcissist you vote for and who has the most believable lies!
I’m voting for Obama. He’s run a much classier campaign than Clinton and his rejection of lobbyist soft money, past experience reaching across the aisle, and his healthcare plan have definitely made him a better candidate than Clinton. Being a moderate myself, there are also things I like about McCain and he is my second choice, in case Clinton is given the nomination at the convention.
Yes, I said it, if Clinton takes the nomination, I WILL NOT vote democrat in November.
Cheers to such an exciting presidential election!
Obama has a fresh energetic appeal to people compared to almost dead white males. I’m not behind any of the candidates this year and can empathize with the guy complaining about the narcissism. They are all politrickians who will say anything to get office. Most people tune in and then tune out after elections and have no idea what is going on. Why is the carbon tax (United Nations tax) not an issue? They all know to get office by starting the spiel about healthcare. Half this country is retarded and can’t pay their bills and the people in power know it. Giving money in a tax rebate to people who never put money into the system is stupid and creates more of a government dependent mentality. I can’t stand it anymore. This election looks like slim pickens at the mudline. Whatever. People think government is all about God and applie pie and really it’s about power and being homoerotic. Hillary is evil and able putting on a tearful front. Obama will sell us out. McCain should not be the one to have the nuclear football. As for Huckabee, no one wants a minister running this country. Romney would have been good for us because he’s a man who has produced wealth for himself and we needed someone successful like that to turn things around and he dropped out.
I very recently decided on Obama. While I think it is is sad that it’s taken us this long to get a woman so high up in office, that’s not enough of a reason to vote for Clinton, her healthcare mandate, and her procensorship views. I chose Obama because of his plans and ideas for healthcare, taxes, all types of educational needs, faith (and his doubts), and of course our situation in the middle east.
Julie can you actually say something about Obama’s “ideas” other than just slogans that a politican uses to ge tyour vote? Obama, like every other politician, is a narcissist. He wants power, that’s it. Ever notice politicians never deliver on their campaign promises? That’s #1 because a narcissist will say anything to get what they want, #2 a narcissist feels no guilt for lying because they lack a conscience. So everyone get out there and vote for which narcissist you think would be the best president!
I’ve actually had a very hard time deciding. I would have voted for McCain in 2000, but there’s no chance I would now. I have wavered between Clinton and Obama (and Richardson) since the very beginning, and only recently decided to support Obama. There aren’t a lot of policy differences between the two, so what it boiled down to was style – Obama has a warmer, more inspirational style than Clinton does, and he has appeal beyond the Democratic base.
I plan on voting for Barack Obama primarily for his position on the War in Iraq. He’s been opposed to the idea from the start by referring to the preemptive stike as a “Dumb War” back in 2002. I can never forgive Hillary Clinton for joining the foolish majority that has lead to the countless deaths of innocent Iraqi’s and our men and women in uniform.
Hillary Clinton also carries around far too much political baggage for my taste. She might as well wear a target on her forehead so the Conservative Noise Machine can get a clean shot at her. The fuhror and rehetoric is already in place to ridicule her, exploit her past and diminish her power. Barack Obama might have less experience but he also has a relatively clean personal and political slate. He’s shown intelligence and integrity that few politicians can boast.
Barack all the way in 2008
Ken in Cleveland
I just sent in my absentee vote for Obama. I really agree with Mag above-as much as I want to support women’s advancement, I just don’t feel like Hillary is the one to do it. The world needs so many things addressed, I think Obama’s got the broad enough perspectives to do it!
Oh great… I see Steve is back on his narcissist kick again… Here we go!!!
Steve, do you vote or do you just complain about everyone that gets elected?
I think it’s a broad jump to say ALL politicans are metally ill. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again… Being a politician means you have to be narcissistic to a certain degree. You have to believe in yourself to speak in public, be a diplomat etc. It’s just like any other profession… People usually do what they do because they are good at it.
If we all had no confidence in ourselves we’d all live in mud huts and eat boiled potatoes everyday until we died of malnourishment. We would make music by moaning to each other and smacking our heads on rocks. Our entertainment would be not dying.
You really need to get over the narcissism thing. It’s such a tiny piece of the political landscape. If you stay focused on that one thing, you’ll go nuts and never be able to change anything.
Really… It’s much bigger than you think.
Ken in Cleveland
Ken in Cleveland:
Here are the diagnostic criteria for narcissistic personality disorder:
[edit] DSM Criteria
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:[1]
has a grandiose sense of self-importance
is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brillance, beauty, or ideal love
believes that he or she is “special” and unique
requires excessive admiration
has a sense of entitlement
is interpersonally exploitative
lacks empathy
is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder
Look at the behaviors of politicians. Do you really think any mentally balanced person would run for President, meaning your entire personal life becomes fair game, oppenent come out of the woodwork to destroy you, you age considerally, have terrible stress, and the pay is very bad. Why else would someone want such a job other than becuase they simply love power? There is no amount of money you could pay me to be President. I would rather perform autopsies than be the President, and I’m petrified of dead bodies. There is something seriously wrong with people who want to be in politics. You live in Cleveland Ken. I live 3 miles from Washington, DC. I see these people, I see the people that are attracted to them. This is the personality disorder capital of the Universe. They flock to DC. Maybe you should come here, and observe politicians and the people into politics, and you’d understand a little better how mentally deranged these people are.
I find this incredible. But anyone who could possibly think of voting for “Two-Faced” McCain over Hillary Clinton has sucked up Right-Wing Noise Machine propaganda and hasn’t been paying enough attention to the last eight years of Republican rule to offer an intelligent opinion, yet alone be allowed to vote. You’ve been living in a closet – and if McCain gets in, good chance you’ll be living in a soup kitchen. You might as well vote for Mickey Mouse or ‘none of the above’.
McCain would be “Bush on steroids” complete with more tax cuts for the rich, Corporate Welfare, a dismantling of social services and programs for average Americans and the poor, 100 more years in Iraq and war with Iran. The guy’s a nutjob. And the same Republicans would be behind the scenes running a government stacked with Corporate hacks and cronies funneling Federal Treasury tax-dollars into their pockets and printing their own money. McCain would be just as much a puppet of the Corporate rich as Bush. Pay attention already.
The Republican Party stands for Corporate greed, corporate welfare, corporate pollution, money, control and power at any cost. It always has and always will be the Party of Greed. There hasn’t been an honest Republican in the White House since Dwight Eisenhower.
The best thing that could happen for our country and the world would be a Clinton/Obama ticket, with Hillary winning two terms and Barack taking the next two – keeping the Republican party out of the White House for the next 16 years could possibly save our Republic. Yeah, one can dream.
In lieu of that, keep the Republicans out by voting for the Democratic nominee, whoever it is. Right-wing conservatism is a mental disease – and when they’re in office, their mental illness effects everyone.
Steve Daniels
Cleveland
Steve Daniels: left wing self loathing is also a mental disease. Not like I care at all about the election, but Mccain is pretty much a democrat. He’s only “conservative” on the war in iraq. Yes, we’re all oing to die or be in soup kitchen lines if Mccain is president.. Have you actually read anything about Mccain and where he stands on the issues? Something tells me you haven’t, and you’re just parroting what someone else told you, like most people interested in politics do. Just so the WHYS can get a better picture o the kind of person you are, to see if they should take what you say seriously, care to tell us who you think was behind 9/11? That should speak volumes depending on your answer.
I second Ken’s sediment. Everybody who is successful in their field is Narcissistic. Pointing it out as your sole excuse for not voting is a cop out at best. No matter what they are they are going to legislating and setting policies that directly affect you way of life.
by all means I do not subscribe to the, “everybody should vote” mentality. If you know nothing about the candidates beyond what FOX network has told you, then really you would do the country more justice to vote.
Hey Steve, doesn’t the fact that you are posting your opinions on a blog that is read by the world over, and defending you case with zeal make you narcissistic?
First lesson of criminal psychology is that “we hate in other the thing we hate most in ourselves”.
I am not in Ohio, but I cannot vote for Hillary Clinton in the general election any way things go.
We have 300 million people in the USA.
Under no circumstances should another Clinton or Bush run or be elected to the office of President.
Any one of the 300 million people is better.
Obama is a people person. He ties in with people well. I am seeing a much tougher man than the past presidents. He dare the truth rather than hiding under the disguise two faces.
He is the silence revolution in the USA
How is posting on an anonymous blog “narcissistic” dwight? Just voicing an opinion. It’s not like I’m seeking attention, I’ve never called into the show, and doubt I would ever. I have no desire for any form of power. I think about other people before I think of myself most of the time. A narcissist is the opposite, who thinks of only themselves, they only care what they want, and lie, constantly, to get what they want, and they lack a conscience, though they can feign one if it helps them get what they want.
iam not American,however,i have been foolowing the American election very closely.if i was American,i would have voted Barack Obama for the next primaries in Ohio and Texas. lets face it: Hillary looks like a very tired and wounded woman and she is obviously getting worried about Obama,s increasing popularity that she has now decided to go on the offensive. i watched in horror as she shouted on campaign trip” shame to you Obama”. it reminded me of the “change we can xerox” horror she made on a democratic debate at the University of Texas. who wants such a presidnet that gets irritated over small issues?
Clinton should go back to the Issues and leave the person of Obama out of her tirades
Hey Dwight, now that Nader is running, care to retract your statement? If you want political office, you are a narcissist. They cannot even perceive reality correctly. He’s so deluded he actually thinks he can win because he thinks he’s important. That’s it. These people are mentally ill and need to be locked up. Ever wonder why virtually every government on earth is horribly run and corrupt? BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENTS ARE CONSISTED OF NARCISSISTS! The worst possible people to be running a country!
Yes, Ohio is important. But so is Texas, which traditionally gets “written off” as an automatic “red” (Republican) state. Not so fast… a weakened and splintered Republican party – mainly around Ultra Conservative dis-affections with McCain – may cause many Texas conservatives (and we have many) to either vote Democratic, or remain at home (not participate or vote). Coupled with the excitement generated in the Democratic Obama-Clinton party race, these elements could combine to make Texas a Blue state for the first time since LBJ…
In general, both candidates support positions, which are reflective of the left to center side of the Democratic party. There are some differences in the details over specific programs within these positions, but in many cases the details are remarkably similar.
A more important consideration that all voters should recognize is that campaign promises (“solutions” per Clinton) are subject to modifications as they leave the campaign trail and wind their way through the legislative, regional and budgetary processes. These changes, from promise to reality, are expected. Much like an architect, who in presenting a scale model of a future project, yet to be voted for and funded, will alert everyone present: “What you see before you, will ultimately not resemble what is finally built”
Likewise, these plans will change on their way to successful acceptance. The critical question is, who is best equipped to shepherd these plans through this process? Who can inspire people from different political viewpoints to reach a consensus for the greater good? Who can accept the adjustments and compromises while not losing sight of the overall vision?
My belief, in answer to these questions, is Obama. Time has already proven that Clinton is a very poor motivator and consensus builder. There is much about her that is to be admired, but as a chief executive, she inspires less, and divides more. She would be a disaster for this country, both domestically and abroad.
My vote is for Obama.
I am 27 and living in New York City but am registered in Ohio so I will be voting by absentee ballot. I will be voting for Hillary Clinton mainly because I am sick of the “lullaby-style” rhetoric of Obama. He is hypnotic which is why a lot of people support his silver-tongued charismatic speaking style but I find him nauseating to listen to and will not support a band-wagon candidate. Most Obama supporters site his ability to excite people as their reason for voting for him. While this is important for a campaign, our country needs an intelligent hard working leader, not someone who most people just think is a pretty cool guy. I don’t think Hillary is the best person in the world to be the U.S. President, but Obama hasn’t done much in his breif political career, he was just catapulted into his candidacy as a token minority who can speak well and look good. It will be very sad if he wins the nomination. I generally support the Democratic party but personally I wouldn’t vote for Obama if he were running against Bush!
Obama.
I like his ideas about funding for higher education and community service from the students in return. I also like the fact that he would choose to focus our efforts on fixing our own house before trying to make the whole world look (be)like the US. Also, there’s nothing wrong with a little charisma and personality in our leader to help America to gain back our good moral standing in the world.
R.B.- Cleveland USA
I can tell you that If I were an American, I would vote for Obama even with my eyes closed. There is no one else in America today who would be worth voting for. If I were to give the reasons, I would spend the next five days explaining, but I do not have that much time. If you are an American and voting, my advice is simple vote for Barack Obama.
I am not in Ohio either but really wanted to weigh in on this. People who are thinking of voting for Hillary, are possibly handing the presidency to McCain since many will NOT vote for Hillary because she’s such a divisive figure.
I agree with the woman who said we DO need hope! It’s what this country was built on. And after years of the same Washington insider crap, we need a fresh take on things. So what if Barack doesn’t have tons of experience. Niether does Hillary really, she just blows smoke. Anyone wanting to know how Hillary really operates needs to google “Hillary Clinton election fraud” and see just how much evidence there is against her! She’s a corrupt politican of the highest order! It doesn’t take much to see how power hungry she is. Yes, anyone running for office is in it partly for the power, but there are degrees and that woman loves to get down in the muck. We need something different and Barack is a man who at the very least, will give us a chance to come together and solve the problems we face. If he makes mistakes, his ego isn’t so large that he will keep bumbling along. Rather he will correct the direction and begin again. That’s all you can ask for! I’m voting Barack!!!!!
The problem for Mrs Clinton is that she has shown herself to be personally power hungry and so ambitious that she is unable to be a Team Player. All her subordinates would be too traumatised to work freely in her administration that work would pile up and atrophy. Just like her Medicaid reforms under Bill Clinton`s administration. As vice-President she could not be trusted to get on with the job either as the President would always be looking over his shoulder !
Its very interesting as I look at the democratic race between Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama. All of a sudden the issue of feminism and for that matter gender is playing no role at all in in the election in the so-called longest democracy in the world. All the women advocate groups who trong into developing countries in Africa and Asia claiming and urging us to vote for women just because they are females have all lost their voices and are saying let’s address the issues here. A big shame unto all of them. I urge them all to pack bag and baggage and leave Africa and Asia because this is the time for them to prove to the world that they really mean business by campaigning for Mrs. Clinton who is not only a female but and exprerienced and seasoned politician with core human moral values who wants to steer America but they have all abandoned her. How many women would want to be with their husbands when the men are publicly exposed in acts or infidelity? To me this lady has core moral values and is most fit to lead the US. If she voted for the US to go to Iraq it was because of the facts that were presented to her at that time and we all know today that those images and reports were doctored. So why falter her? Wasn’t it only last week that the bush administration told london that indeed about 2 aircrafts landed on british soil enroute to other countries with prisoners for interrogation? And so does that make Blair a liar? The Labour party did the honourable thing by apologising because they were not informed about those landings. What I want the US to know is that they have lived for 8 years under a leader who is a serial liar and they to my uttermost surprise failed to acknowledged this although they had all the evidence available. (I am not in the least surprised that they are in a recession now. America has been living a lie of economic boom for 7 years now and the truth is hitting them in the face). I’ve noticed one thing with Mrs. Clinton which I know will make her do quite a good job for the world in the white house. That is that she does not like taking decisions on intuision. She always wants to look at the hard facts and whenever these are presented to her I’ve never seen her falter on a single one with her strong human moral values. At least these is what I see of her in the little I see on the news. This woman is not carried away by emotions. Its just not her style but I see a lot of these in Mr.Obama. He is the type of politicians who play on the people’s sentiments only to turn round and tell them that they didn’t know and that they are sorry. A typical example is Mr. Boris Yelstin. I’m cautioning America not to allow themselves to be carried away by this so-called cry of ‘change’ by Obama. The world is at a very dangerous point now in its short history. Look at Russia and China and think twice. Mr. Obama cannot and would not bring any change, not even to Africa because he doesn’t understand a thing about the dinamics at play but mrs. Clinton at least has some experience which they say is the best teacher. And to all who care to check and cross-check facts before they take decisions I’d like you all especially those who are of African descent to ask Mr. Obama about his vision for the continent and especially what he said when he visited Kenya and you’ll see what I’m saying. Then ask him what he has done so-far on or about the continent. Then please ask Mrs. Clinton the same question and find out what she has done for the continent and you’ll see the truth. Please do this before you vote next week. For the young and excited young ones, please I’m telling you the truth that Mr. Obama is a Mr. Bush. They lie and take advantage of peoples emotions to achieve their goals. When with the help of wicked men Bush stole your 2000 elections from Mr. Gore you went along with it on the basis of ‘change’. Just 8 years down the line the whole world if grapling with one of the key issues of Mr. Gore by then which was the climate. I have no iota of doubt that this climate menace would’ve been best managed under Mr. Gore than Mr. Bush. Bush was a better orator than Gore but Gore had the facts and experience however, you let the opportunity slip by because you went for excitement instead of the hard scientific facts available to you about the works of both men. I see you wanting to do same here with Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama and I’m urging you to reflect sobberly before you endorse Mr. Obama. He is too inexperienced. Already you have at least one or two of his publications(pamphlets) that shows you how innocent he is about internatiional issues and your own health care. Please compare it to what Mrs. Clinton is offering and you’ll understand what I’m saying. With time he may become experienced in world politics and that will be good for us all. Boris Yeltsin failed as leader of Russia although he was elected with hope and vision because he wasn’t experienced enough to navigate the murky waters of world politics but Putin has been successful because he had the experience! Today Russia is back and your president Bush is playing second fiddle to them. Finally to all the women in the US I’d like to tell you that Mrs. Clinton is just like you and feels your pain and agony as you hear the death of your sons and daughters in Iraq. I pessonally don’t think that if she were the head of state she would’ve doctored the truth just to have the excuse of invading Iraq without counting the cost of human lives to be incurred. Now that she knows the truth didn’t she joined the crussade to get the guys back home. Please, America needs a mother to comfort, sooth but at the same time lead it on its forward march and Mrs. Clinton is the right personality. Please, vote for her and let’s see how she would perform as a mother otherwise you have no business in asking we the men to give you quatas etc in developing countries to enable you show your capabilities. We would take you serious if you rally behind your own who is qualified for the job and give it to her or be sure that next time you enter Africa especially with your rethorics of feminine action etc we will throw you all out. We listened to you and gave Liberia to Hellen Johnson instead of George Weah although Weah was by far the most popular (she is doing well there,though).
I wasn’t sure which person to vote for until I saw the Cleveland debate last night. Hilary seemed to be on a negative theme last night, whether she got testy about frequently getting picked first to answer a question (what was her reaction all about?), to her insistence on negative attacks against her opponent, to refusing to answer Tim Russert’s questions (and detailed facts) about her changing stance on NAFTA.
Hilary “tanked” this debate as far as I’m concerned. I’ve decided to vote for Barack Obama.
I will vote for Hillary She has got more of what it takes to be president the Dem’s need to wake up and get off this foolish band wagon there on or they will loose the white house to republicans again if my choice is Obama or McCain I’m for Mccain more experience so vote as you will you will see A vote for Obama is a republican vote
I have seen the worst animosity of the presidential candidates. This time a woman candidate calling names and making wild accusations against others when the popularity got low and saw success. Most of all the amount of money spent talking about the need of the nation and the people. Previuosly I had mentioned such a waste of money to seek a posted may as well be called bribery to win. I had also mentioned the presidential candidate should be promoted in the service of the government of the people who has worked hard for the safety and law of the nation to the highest post of President of the nation as seen in the developing nations with four to eight years of his retiring life he has deserved the Presidency of the United States of America as his Honour. The pitfalls and errors will be minimised to minimum or none to the Nation and its People.
March 5, 2008.
Sorry for any ill felt thoughts or drastic felt suggestions in the above letter.
We all hope within our hearts that the universe with all the comfort and challages for the future redirect our hearts together for peace, harnony and comfort with safety of ant or an elephant and gods creations will floursh in peace , safety, comfort and good health given as few moments in the history of the universe.
Thanks and may be continue in future.
I think that it’s a shame that the best and most experienced Democratic candidates are out of the election. Clinton and Obama have no ground to stand on with the “experience” claims, when compared to people like Joe Biden or, on the other side of the aisle, John McCain. John McCain seems like a decent guy, but forever trapped in the need to have won the Vietnam War. I’ll be riding the fence in this election until I see who the vice presidential choices are.
Scott