04
Jun
09

Do you believe Obama?

ObamaPresident Obama will be giving a ‘landmark’ speech in Cairo today and we plan to do a live blog while he’s speaking.

We’ll talk about what Obama is saying, and post what our BBC reporters make of it. Of course we want to know what you think, so post your comments here, email worldhaveyoursay@bbc.com, or text +44 77 86 20 60 80 and we’ll include those too.

What is Obama really trying to achieve? A US image make-over? To heal the rift with the muslim world? Or to tell us his plans for Israel / Palestine? Do you believe him and can he do it?

Bernard Finel thinks he can’t smooth things over. This blogger thinks he is being unfair to Israel. And this view says anti-american feeling is caused by US support for Arab dictators not their support for Israel.


10 Responses to “Do you believe Obama?”


  1. 1 Roberto
    June 4, 2009 at 11:01

    RE “” What is Obama really trying to achieve? “”
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    ———- Nobody can really count on the true purpose behind any politician’s actions, but it looks to me like Obama is busy leveraging his global status to address the middle east directly in an historical setting. Maybe something akin to the purpose JF Kennedy’s famous Berlin speech designed to soothe a jittery ally.

    Hard to know what the man on the street to think, but no end to Arab elites to assume that duty for them. Obama’s savvy enough to understand that he’d never be able to satisfy expectations of everyone.

    I’d imagine he’s greatly concerned about the vacuum of power should the elderly Mubarek pass away during his administration. We saw the disaster after Arafat’s passing for Palestinians resulting in major Israeli military operations to defend northern and southern borders.

    Arabs, indeed, all of us need to be making realistic plans for future changes, so it’s the future of the middle east he’ll be entreating Arabs to think about.

  2. 2 Jim Newman
    June 4, 2009 at 13:35

    Hello again
    I don’t think Obama can climb out of the hole dug for him by previous presidents as much as he may wish to. The continuous vetoes used by the USA to protect the zionist squatters have put the squatters in such a strong position that only a complete embargo and isolation can have an effect.
    At this moment I am listening to Obama’s speech.
    Well I’ve listened to it and I see no reason to change what I have already written. The speech was long on eloquence and short on hope. His stated belief that the use of violence to settle conflicts was wrong certainely gives hope that he will dismantle the US war machine in the near future. His abhorance of the killing of innocent men, women and children gives hope that he will order the US to stop it. His stated belief that we should stop living in the past and look to the future is a bit more problematic because even I would not agree that we should open the prison gates and let all criminals free.
    He didn’t mention zionism, which is ,in my opinion, the problem not only for the Middle East but for peace in the world. This blindness to a dangerous racist ideology is akin to the appeasement of Hitler and nazism.
    One thing that was remarkable about the speech was the way he avoided the word terrorisme, prefering to use extreemism instead.
    In general the acid test for such a speech would be to try to imagine how an arab leader making the same speech to the US congress, with, of course, the appropriate modifications, would be received.
    To finish I would like to say that a man without a history is a man without a future and that goes for nations and ideologies.
    We shouldn’t be dazzled by this speech nor by the person who delivered it.
    Jim

  3. 3 Jennifer
    June 4, 2009 at 14:26

    Re: What is Obama really trying to achieve?

    Obama thinks that by apologizing for anything and everything in the past that might be considered offensive to other countries; he will suddenly be placed in their good graces. He is trying to achieve “peace” with people who do a great deal of double talking. The sad thing is that we Americans are being taken along for the ride.

    Re: Do you believe him and can he do it?

    I don’t believe Obama. I wish he could, but his ideas are not grounded in reality.

  4. 4 iman ahmed
    June 4, 2009 at 14:32

    I totally believe him and pray that he succeeds

  5. 5 Dennis Junior
    June 4, 2009 at 15:22

    I am trying to believe President Obama and his talking points….but, the “final” situation is far from being settled…

    ~Dennis Junior~

  6. 6 Fazeela from Trinidad
    June 4, 2009 at 16:10

    Mr Obama’s message is one of hope and reconciliation. I would like to believe he can initiate change but it may be too much for one man to accomplish. It will be a miracle if he can get the Israelis and Palestinians to agree to stop the violence and co-exist peacefully.

  7. 7 Jim Newman
    June 4, 2009 at 17:10

    Hello again
    While those for reasonable debate are arguing with the pro-zionist camp for the acceptance of my original comment I would like to answer Fazeela. Jews and Palestinians can co-exist peacefully. As Palestine was originally before the advent of the zionists. All Obama has to do is kick the zionists out of Palestine and in time things will settle down. I say Obama should do the job because it was the USA that caused the misery in the first place.
    The miracle will be whether he has the courage to clear up the mess others have left for him.
    To Mark Sandell. I spend a lot of time preparing my comments and much more time checking the facts of what I write than most other commentators – of course I’m anti-zionist. I’m anti-nazi as well and pro-choice for abortion and anti- cruelty. Why does that make me a pariah without a right to my say on certain subjects.
    Jim

  8. 8 Jim Newman
    June 4, 2009 at 17:39

    Hello again
    And hello again Mark. Well we’re slowly getting there. There are people in the dark shadows of WHYS who are opposed to any public debate on zionism. It’s a pity that they have not the courage to join in. When I throw my hat in the ring it’s there for anyone to pick up. So! pick it up.
    Jim

  9. 9 Roberto
    June 5, 2009 at 00:15

    RE “” Jews and Palestinians can co-exist peacefully. As Palestine was originally before the advent of the zionists. All Obama has to do is kick the zionists out of Palestine and in time things will settle down. I say Obama should do the job because it was the USA that caused the misery in the first place. “”
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    —————— Jim, this is unrealistic nonsense and you know it, but if per chance you don’t, then you’re a poor student of history.

    1. The area has thousands of years of upheaval before the US ever arrives on the scene. Placing blame on the US isn’t even disingenuous.

    2. Kicking “the zionists” out is a nonstarter. You know this, but being an anarchist you don’t care if the place turns into a smoking field of glass any more than you care for Palestinians or Israelis.

    • 10 Jim Newman
      June 5, 2009 at 15:55

      Hello again
      And hello Roberto. It was a bit glib of me. What I was talking about was Palestine after the Ottoman Empire and before the zionist implantation. In fact the recreation of Palestine.
      The US was the main supporter of the zionist squatting of Palestine and the ethnic cleansing that has been going on since.
      Of course simply ‘kicking out the zionists’ is a non-starter.
      My idea of achieving peace between Jews and Arabs in Palestine is for Palestine to revert to being Palestine.. Preferably a secular state and the squatters being given the choice of staying on as Palestinians or leaving.
      All this happening within a framework of international law with some kind of agency to help Jews and Arabs live together in peace.
      Your wrong about me not caring. I do care. I cry for Palestine.
      I hope that this has cleared up any mis-understandings and anyway nice to talk to you.
      Jim


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